HOWARD NOBODY LIKES YOU

[Charismatic]

You said I don't have any actual musicians to insult and Lady GaGa is at least one by your definition.

[Zalius]

if she's composing and producing the majority of her own music, then good for her. i would not bet any significant amount of money on that though.

gaga is not sold as a musician, she is sold as a face for music. if she makes it easier to sell, she will be sold.

[Charismatic]

gaga is not sold as a musician, she is sold as a face for music. if she makes it easier to sell, she will be sold.

cop out

[Kyo]

why hasn't kyo crewed up for domon yet? slippin.

Domon is my nigga for life and all but we dont white knight hard for each other, he's doing just fine without my help, he's a smart fella.

[Zalius]

cop out

again, no actual response. you need to know how it works to use it.

[Zalius]

my entire point is that you dont know what the fuck youre talking about, and youre making it clear by referencing gaga, avril and britney. thats youre fucking million dollar argument. avril, britney, and gaga.

youre a fucking JOKE.

[Kyo]

Man I know Im going to get ragged hard about this shit, but Lady gaga used to write music for people, then Akon "discovered" her and she started doing her own stuff etc. She does in fact write most of her music. Just a clarification.

[Charismatic]

or i can use the definition of someone actually writing and or producing their music instead of being written by someone that knows how to make money off of it.

i think its adorable that youre trying to be holistic now after being a total ignorant dipshit

Lady Gaga (born Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta; March 28, 1986) is an American singer, songwriter, fashion designer, pianist and performance artist.

So... what you're saying is that you don't even know what an actual musician is, right?

[Charismatic]

This is why I laughed at the use of the term in the first place.
You can't define an actual musician, dumbass.

[Charismatic]

This is why I laughed at the use of the term in the first place.
You can't define an actual musician, dumbass.

Spoiler: show

Because there's no such thing

[Zalius]

Man I know Im going to get ragged hard about this shit, but Lady gaga used to write music for people, then Akon "discovered" her and she started doing her own stuff etc. She does in fact write most of her music. Just a clarification.

as a tip to know when this is a safety net or bullshit, try and identify most of the instruments/effects in a piece. if theres a lot of reverb, whimsical sounds, voice doubling, and a really simple beat, its probably a production piece and not a composition. pop music is intended for celebrations, dancing, etc. it's still music, and SOMEONE made it, but to assume that it's a composition designed to do anything but make money is silly. for the performer it probably is, but their livelihood is pretty much owned by their production company.

[Zalius]

So... what you're saying is that you don't even know what an actual musician is, right?

wikipedia, for pros.

[Zalius]

i'm sure she's written songs before, dont get me wrong. that doesn't mean the majority of the music that's being marketed under her flagship was produced by her.

[Charismatic]

wikipedia, for pros.

I mean, obviously I didn't already know she was a singer-songwriter to even think to pull up the article on her.
I just happened to see that when searching for Lady GaGa... yeah.

[Zalius]

the best part is, neither of us can prove it. you can only assume your right, and you do so obviously being ignorant to how the musical industry actually works, which youve made evident in trying to do whatever it is youre trying to do

[Charismatic]

i'm sure she's written songs before, dont get me wrong. that doesn't mean the majority of the music that's being marketed under her flagship was produced by her.

She writes all of her music.
All. of. it.

[Zalius]

I mean, obviously I didn't already know she was a singer-songwriter to even think to pull up the article on her.
I just happened to see that when searching for Lady GaGa... yeah.

yeah, you know lady gaga writes her songs. good for you.

[Charismatic]

yeah, you know lady gaga writes her songs. good for you.

cop out

[quannum]

but we dont white knight hard for each other

you really can't be that unaware of it, i ain't buyin it.

[Zalius]

that was me asking for evidence

and if gaga, avril and britney are your standards for calling musicians gay, i can see why you would say that, and i agree with you.