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  1. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chen View Post
    get that it's rather pointless without an SS, but N.legs in T2 einherjar today <3

    ghosts/skeles so we had to semi work for them after of my bad link pulls
    And let's not forget the DCing main assists! Spoiler for huge 'cos I'm lazy


  2. #382
    Nidhogg
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    Omg, a soulflayer staff!

    JK, welcome to the kool kids klub.

  3. #383
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    I remember all of BG's "elite" gave me shit for saying N.Lg was Nid's second best drop...boy oh boy did things ever change.
    Only worthwhile abju I've seen from Ein, outside of Odin, was a N.Hd on one of our first runs. Since then I think its been a M.Ft and a P.Lg, about 2 yrs worth.

  4. #384
    The Syrup To Waffles's Waffle
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    I'd still argue for E. Body. But yeah N. Legs is in the top two.

  5. #385
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    oh, E.Bd is king, no question, back then and now, but I was ridiculed for not putting M.Bd and A.Bd leagues over N.Lg.

  6. #386
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    I'd still argue for E. Body. But yeah N. Legs is in the top two.
    uh

  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    oh, E.Bd is king, no question, back then and now, but I was ridiculed for not putting M.Bd and A.Bd leagues over N.Lg.
    And shall i assume that Abody back then was the only refresh body a rdm could wear with relic hat for 2 mp a tic?

  8. #388
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    ~1550 mp per 10 minutes before convert merits or resting or composure(2005)
    1750/1550 = 12.9% increase in mp over time if you never rest, probably half that if you do.. and now we have things like kupower/fov/signet/sigil refresh as well. Of course, composure and convert merits will cut relative benefits even more.

    It's certainly nice and I love my robe, but it's not anywhere near as big a deal as people seem to think.

  9. #389
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    And shall i assume that Abody back then was the only refresh body a rdm could wear with relic hat for 2 mp a tic?
    Exactly, useful for ONE job situationally (and back then duelist chapeaus didnt exactly rain from the sky)...two if you wish to include bards as the only other job without a body-only refresh piece.

  10. #390
    Siralin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooom View Post
    Spoiler for huge 'cos I'm lazy

    Since when is an 800x600 image "huge"?

  11. #391
    But I don't want my title changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siralin View Post
    Since when is an 800x600 image "huge"?
    ^

    <.<

  12. #392
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Exactly, useful for ONE job situationally (and back then duelist chapeaus didnt exactly rain from the sky)...two if you wish to include bards as the only other job without a body-only refresh piece.
    Before or after the rng nerf?

  13. #393
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    idk, i'm kinda looking at an idle piece (aka piece being worn 80% of the time) vs a piece macrod in on WSs to increase average damage of ws by about 10-30

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    10-30 is a pretty big jump for WS dmg. Didnt that taru with the blade:jin avatar (I cant remember his name...started with an A or B?) test out the gorgets and deduced their usage would add about 15-20 dmg?

  15. #395
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    Since when is Nlegs a good item?

    Really now

  16. #396
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genrye View Post
    Since when is Nlegs a good item?

    Really now
    You're right, sam cant wear it, carry on ^____________^

  17. #397
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    The only reason N. Legs > A. Body is because of alternatives for refresh.

  18. #398
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    The only reason N. Legs > A. Body is because of alternatives for refresh and that a.body looks like complete ass.
    ftfy

  19. #399
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    Yo dawgs, Nlegs is only good for thf and wut nawt.

    Discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Aside from the fact that if you weren't a gimpshit, you'd eventually get usukane(which changes stp dynamics!)and rajas will almost always save a hit to 100 tp, 1.25 fstr is ~2.5% damage on mnk and more on thf.. rajas/toreadors is 9.5 acc and 2.5 attack. For the gimp rings to win, you'd need 3.5 attack and 2.5 acc to amount to the 2.5% damage before considering subtle blow/store tp. If you compare to a snipers or blood ring, it's 4.5 acc 3.5 attack vs 2.5% damage.. which is closer and may favor the set a tiny bit. If your ddex is high enough for rajas to have any impact on your crit rate or you save a hit to 100 tp(and you will), even a shitty 5 acc ring + rajas will beat the set.

    It's for people who have tamas or sattva and can't afford toreador's(which in itself is pretty gimp, if you're that poor and care about your melee then rajas is a very easy upgrade to get).
    Oh talking about my mnk, I was referring to my thf. But thanks for the info on mnk :3

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