Drop XIX: We can't see your drop pools

[Karbuncle]

>.> oh wow, didn't know that NM had a horrible drop rate, went 1/4 myself D:

[Furionstormrage]

This makes me 2/6 on them. I sold my first one I got back in Jan-2009, but I'm keeping this one. No more mediocre belt for me.

You better keep this one. Congrats man!

[Mikus]

After many many hours spent not even seeing the bastard pop and never getting drop
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...117_023303.png

[Raen Ryong]

holy crap my eyes

[Shinryuu]

Y'all are morons when you 2008-bandwagon "you didn't get the good drop" in a Fafnir-dropping-ridill-pic. Galea. Ridill is by far a better Fafnir drop even pre-Galea too, whether you sell it or use it.

[TaruMortis]

Wasn't aware that lizardtrap was such a bad drop.. Found it helping my girlfriend with something down there, went 1/1 >.>

[Mikus]

holy crap my eyes

Haha yeah that's what I said after I tried making the picture "sharper" in photobucket. Won't do that again!

[Tsuko_Asura]

Y'all are morons when you 2008-bandwagon "you didn't get the good drop" in a Fafnir-dropping-ridill-pic. Galea. Ridill is by far a better Fafnir drop even pre-Galea too, whether you sell it or use it.

If you sell it, sure, but if you don't, you could have sold N.Head and bought an Mkris, which would be better.

[Darlantan]

Only assuming it goes to a lolDRK though :3

[Hegarty]

Y'all are morons when you 2008-bandwagon "you didn't get the good drop" in a Fafnir-dropping-ridill-pic. Galea. Ridill is by far a better Fafnir drop even pre-Galea too, whether you sell it or use it.

Where is Galea a better WS piece than Hecatomb Cap for THF DRG DRK or WAR?
For birds you will be using Sushi as THF, covering Accuracy and all the other jobs can cap Accuracy at birds with meat np, everywhere else there is Marinara Pizza+1.

[Hegarty]

ok maybe THF even with Sushi would be better off with 25 Acc Galea for DE/EV but who cares about THF damage?

[Aurara]

i dont use sushi as thf on birds...and thf is a great DD..just gear/play it properly..

[Hegarty]

Yeah I really don't wanna go into the THF can/cannot do worthwhile damage arguement and level SAM or WAR or gtfo shit but even including THF I'd like to know where Shinryuu thinks Galea is any good.

[Fottiti]

i dont use sushi as thf on birds...and thf is a great DD..just gear/play it properly..

No to both, you can't get enough accuracy to justify not using sushi as thf on birds.

You can cap accuracy under feint ofcourse but I highly doubt even that will be enough to make meat better.

[Hegarty]

I have seen math showing that under no circumstances Meat could even beat Sushi for THF on birds too, using Raparee Harness+WTurban vs Mirke/Anwig with Acc+10, DW+3% and Haste+3%, Accuracy+10 augments.

[noodles355]

If you're a Thf, your Anwig Salade should be Acc+10/Att+5/Haste+3, not a 25WSacc hat.

Besides, you equip the salade, and can then "remove acc elsewhere". But if you look at the good damage pieces, they all tend to have +acc/dex on them anyway, and you're probably already using them. You'll probably find it hard to "remove acc" in other slots.
Furthermore, the hat wont even change your choice of food, considering that it does nothing for your TP hit rate.
Most of that hat's acc will be lost to the cap. As someone mentioned, for places outside of colibri, there is Pizza+1. For colibri there's crab sushi.

As for kabobs on colibri, as a mithra (80 base dex) with 8/8 dagger and: Blau/Fane (Acc+6 augment), Bomblet, Anwig, Torque, Suppa, Brutal, Mirke, Homam, Toredor, Rajas, Cuch, Swift, Skadi, Homam, you're looking at 383Acc. Say Sushi gives +45Acc (360ish in turban/rap @13% acc on sushi).

With meat, you'd be around 85% Acc.
With Sushi, you'd be at acc cap (+11.7%dot), able to switch to turban/rappare (losing 22.5acc), so gaining 6% haste, losing 3%DW, 5Str (assume 1fstr)
Assume Haste + 2 Marches, 35% in spells, 15% in gear, adding 6%: 50%>56%, 13.6% increase. Losing 3DW is 3.9%, and losing 1fstr is (base 62str, going from 76>71, with blau dolch (assume fane is d32 offhand aswell)) -2.7% dot.

So total, using sushi+rapp+turban is a boost of 18.7% dot over anwig/mirke/no food.

Ading mithkabobs to the anwig/mirke set, assume around 340 base att, adding 60, 340>400 base att, coli defence of 327, increase to cRatio is 26.6% (increases TP and WS damage remember - it's food.)

If you only have 1brd, the mirke/anwig/kabob set will destroy the sushi/rap/turban set by around 8%,
however, if you get a 2nd brd, or a cor (assume +100Att through 2xmin or chaos/corsairs), the sushi/rapp/turban set wins by 0.3%.

tl;dr: Mithra, 8 Dagger merits, gear set proposed at start of post:
If only 1brd, setup wins.
If brdx2 or brd/cor, setup is almost equal rapp/turban/sushi.

So, as Thf rarely gets a brd/brd or brd/cor meripo, I'd go with mirke/anwig.

[Tsuko_Asura]

So, as Thf rarely gets a brd/brd or brd/cor meripo, I'd go with mirke/anwig.

So don't join the party?

[Despain]

So don't join the party?

There you go using common sense again.

[Hegarty]

Let's get some pchan and mdkuser here on this debate, Mirke+Anwig+Meat or WTurban+Raparee+Squid/Sole.

[noodles355]

So don't join the party?

Nono, you misunderstand, if you're the kind of person who's happy to turn own a party because it only has 1 bard, then chances are you wont be LFP anyway because you have friends you merit with. But chances are you will then also be on a better merit job (not that Thf is bad, but there are better).

If you're the kind of person who LFPs for merits, you're less likely to turn down an invite to a 1brd party. Afterall, 21k is still pretty standard for a 1brd pt, and that's not too bad.