9/11 Did Not Happen During The Bush!

[Olo401]

So if it takes a year for foreign policy to change, and means that 9/11 was actually Clinton's fault, wouldn't it also mean that any "attacks" that happened so far under Obama would still be Bush's fault? I mean, Obama hasn't been president for a year yet so it's still all Bush's fault.

Dude.. You're trying to use logic to reason with an illogical person and their agenda.

[Dimmauk]

So according to Lief and the other GOP morons, Bush inherited 911 and Bush gets a year grace period. But Obama gets the blame for 3 attacks that happend before Obama hit his year in office. This is why the GOP has zero crediablity now.

[Cyn]

This is why the GOP has zero crediablity now.

No it's not. It hasn't had any for quite awhile.

[Mugmug]

Leif is one of the best Trolls I have seen. gg

[Callisto]

His Troll Fu is indeed strong, I don't even give a shit about politics and I was half-mayad.

[nitsuj]

Dimmauk + Politics = Beard for president!

[Leif]

I'd pay 250 dollars for a lifetime on bg without Leif.

Further proof of the fact that liberals never want to actually debate a conservative. They just want to stop conservatives from speaking.

questionable? lol. I thought you said that all racists are democrats. Also, do you not remember every republican radio talk show host play apologetic over lott? Saying it wasn't a big deal, taken out of context, not what he meant, etc. Fuck I honestly feel like republicans have amnesia over what went on after that lol.
But I digress, because comparing lott's and reid's comments is absolutely irresponsible and juts shows republicans really don't understand why lott's comment was unacceptable and racist.

Except Trent Lott's statement was almost by definition a lie. It was a toast at someone's 100-year birthday party. He wasn't going to give a toast and then tell everyone what a terrible person Thermond was.

At the same time, the statement was questionable, as I said before. There is no proof of his racial intent. I say the statement was damaging enough to force him to resign, but it is irresponsible to call him a racist.

PS stop equating conservatives with republicans

I am always very careful when I use these two terms. However, I can't say the same for you and this bubble of silliness:

But I digress, because comparing lott's and reid's comments is absolutely irresponsible and juts shows republicans really don't understand why lott's comment was unacceptable and racist.

Why is it that liberals never understand conservatives yet conservatives understand liberals more than liberals understand liberals?

So if it takes a year for foreign policy to change, and means that 9/11 was actually Clinton's fault, wouldn't it also mean that any "attacks" that happened so far under Obama would still be Bush's fault? I mean, Obama hasn't been president for a year yet so it's still all Bush's fault.

I did not say that "9/11 was Clinton's fault" or any other statement that conveyed the same message.

To refresh, I said:

This thread is a complete hoax.

She says that we "inherited the most tragic attack on our own soil". Understandably, this verifiably true statement got you really angry.

9/11 was a serious attack that was inherited based on the foreign policy weaknesses of the Clinton administration. Unlike his two predecessors who routinely responded to Muslims blowing up Americans, usually with some sort of big explosives, Clinton refused to do anything about it. Bush inherited Clinton's foreign policy, which traditionally sticks around for about a year after a change of policy.

This does not say "9/11 was Clinton's fault", "Clinton caused 9/11", etc. This does, however, state that Bush was living off of Clinton's foreign policy. It's amazing how liberals attempt to skim everything conservatives say. When they don't understand it, they simply assume its advocating genocide or some equally preposterous theory.

Now, let's relate this to the Obama administration. Obama has been living off of Bush's foreign policy. Not surprisingly, this is why he has had such success. Not surprisingly, as it has begun to fade, attacks have gone up. This can be related to a number of verifiable factors including, but not limited to:

• Obama apologizing for America acting in its interest
• Obama closing Guantanamo
• Obama worrying more about offending Muslims than about Muslims killing Americans
• The mainstream media (especially the NYT) harping on about PTSD being the cause of Ft. Hood
• "Afghanistan it the war of necessity, Iraq is the war of choice"

All of which can not be blamed on Bush.

[Eticket]

So according to Lief and the other GOP morons, Bush inherited 911 and Bush gets a year grace period. But Obama gets the blame for 3 attacks that happend before Obama hit his year in office. This is why the GOP has zero crediablity now.

Don't forget that the current economy is all his fault too.

[Acturus]

Don't forget that the current economy is all his fault too.

And the great injustice that Conan O'Brien is suffering at the hands of NBC.

[Olo401]

I heard Leif was one of the Rethug cameramen who was stalking Martha Coakley the other night in Dorchester, and was filming when that reporter for the Weekly Standard took a dive into a storm drain and claimed that he was shoved by her aides..

Nice job trying to pull an Acorn filmjob buddy!

Spoiler: show

just kidding.. event was real tho.

[Leif]

Point of fact, Bush started gutting Clinton's foreign policy pretty much from day 1 in office.

Right. Thank God he did. The only problem is that you can't rework the entire defense and intelligence systems in 9 months.

[Leif]

HA HA HA HA HA

Oh, you slay me, Leif.

I have been slain.

Slain is hardly deserving considering it's not like you told a lie of Holocaust-denying proportions.

[Acturus]

I'm not entirely sure how to respond to that sentence structure, so I'll instead change the subject.

The only problem with liberals in this country is that they don't have people as smart as Leif on their side. Dead serious. Liberals of any ilk don't seem to comprehend how to spin an issue and Republicans are like wizards by comparison.

Applying "spin" means that you first acknowledge the indiscretion. Our friends on this board don't spin so much as they do barrel past.

[Olo401]

Spin implies changing the meaning, which is something Republicans are extremely adept at. They can change the meaning of a pile of bullshit to suit their ideological purposes.

[Acturus]

Spin implies changing the meaning, which is something Republicans are extremely adept at. They can change the meaning of a pile of bullshit to suit their ideological purposes.

Well, yes, but that's a mark of professional politics in general. I was merely commenting that our neo-con friends here on bg aren't nearly as adept.

[Olo401]

Well, yes, but that's a mark of professional politics in general. I was merely commenting that our neo-con friends here on bg aren't nearly as adept.

Ahh point taken. And you're right - like most of the Rethug parrots out there they just repeat the stuff that they're told.

[Acturus]

Ahh point taken. And you're right - like most of the Rethug parrots out there they just repeat the stuff that they're told.

reminds me of 00:52-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cf9NqaZ4fw

[Alcarin]

9/11 was Bush and only Bush doing... well not only bush but the entire politics and Oil companies...

When they realize that US, had few crude oil, all the companies (of course the ones that rule the US) told the US goverment, that IRAQ have some to share... of course they will not give that oil that easily... ok IRAQ, full of terrorist, why not do some collateral dmg, destroy the twin towers, we blame IRAQ and yay we have our war, and get the Oil...

This is my point of view thou, and if its true, god bless america... and any goverment who have the balls to do that kind of stuff.

[Demosthenes11]

9/11 was Bush and only Bush doing... well not only bush but the entire politics and Oil companies...

When they realize that US, had few crude oil, all the companies (of course the ones that rule the US) told the US goverment, that IRAQ have some to share... of course they will not give that oil that easily... ok IRAQ, full of terrorist, why not do some collateral dmg, destroy the twin towers, we blame IRAQ and yay we have our war, and get the Oil...

This is my point of view thou, and if its true, god bless america... and any goverment who have the balls to do that kind of stuff.

kill yourself

[Olo401]

9/11 was Bush and only Bush doing... well not only bush but the entire politics and Oil companies...

When they realize that US, had few crude oil, all the companies (of course the ones that rule the US) told the US goverment, that IRAQ have some to share... of course they will not give that oil that easily... ok IRAQ, full of terrorist, why not do some collateral dmg, destroy the twin towers, we blame IRAQ and yay we have our war, and get the Oil...

This is my point of view thou, and if its true, god bless america... and any goverment who have the balls to do that kind of stuff.

Erm.. wha?