What's Better?

[Shinryuu]

Or you can join a party that doesn't suck. Having a COR pull instead of being a DD is like having a DRK outparse a WAR-ohwait

I'd rather have Ravi pulling than some shitty pickup BRD; puller is still the most important factor in exp/hour.

But yeah DD COR + WAR + DRK + RDM + DNC + BRD puller yay

[ZhiGaruda]

I'd rather have Ravi pulling than some shitty pickup BRD; puller is still the most important factor in exp/hour.

But yeah DD COR + WAR + DRK + RDM + DNC + BRD puller yay

Here I was expecting to start a heated argument, god dommot fronk

[zaps]

try2
ranger tp

Skadi's Curie vs Osode

heres my setup when TPing

Staff/axegrip/Sbow/demon
AF/Pcharm/vision/drone
X/Crimson/rajas/behemoth
amemet+1/buc/skadi's/skadi's

[matix]

try2
ranger tp

Skadi's Curie vs Osode

heres my setup when TPing

Staff/axegrip/Sbow/demon
AF/Pcharm/vision/drone
X/Crimson/rajas/behemoth
amemet+1/buc/skadi's/skadi's

osode always unless using some sort of snapshot body

[Vodou]

try2
ranger tp

Skadi's Curie vs Osode

heres my setup when TPing

Staff/axegrip/Sbow/demon
AF/Pcharm/vision/drone
X/Crimson/rajas/behemoth
amemet+1/buc/skadi's/skadi's

My math says that they are essentially equal (Skadi might be better by a sliver), assuming fstr and racc are not capped. If Osode beats it outside of WS, I'd like to see the math.

You'd want Osode for the WS, however, so unless there is another reason other than rng TP, I'd pass on it.

[matix]

good body for barrage, has the most r.acc on a body and some r.atk aswell

[pchan]

Or you can join a party that doesn't suck. Having a COR pull instead of being a DD is like having a DRK outparse a WAR-ohwait

I'd rather have Ravi pulling than some shitty pickup BRD; puller is still the most important factor in exp/hour.

But yeah DD COR + WAR + DRK + RDM + DNC + BRD puller yay

Assuming every mob is getting dia2/3 sure. Otherwise it's better so sub whm and spam dia2, /war on lol melee cor is like 15% increase on 10% of the damage which is ridiculous. If subbing whm means you alleviate the MP usage of the rdm allowing him to cast dia III over dia II, it's better also. If you kill just one mob per 30 sec, dia II is 600 MP per 10 minutes while dia III is 900 per 10 minutes.

MP consumed hasting 2 DDs and a lolDD is 3*40*10/3=400 and yourself 40*10/9=44 due to composure => 444
Refresh on yourself and the DRK => 40*10/7.5+40*10/2.5= 213 MPs
MP used for Dia III => 45*20= 900
total for buffs and debuffs : 900+213+444= 1557

Total MP recovered by the RDM assuming non gimp
ballad : 3 roll : 3 refresh : 3 sanction : 1 gear : 2 = 12/tick -> 2400

MP maximum used for cures : 2400-1557= 843

Since you kill 20 mobs per 10 minutes that's 843/20=42 MP per mob.

1 cure IV every 2 mobs ? That's not even close to being likely. Sub whm yo.

[ZhiGaruda]

Assuming every mob is getting dia2/3 sure. Otherwise it's better so sub whm and spam dia2, /war on lol melee cor is like 15% increase on 10% of the damage which is ridiculous. If subbing whm means you alleviate the MP usage of the rdm allowing him to cast dia III over dia II, it's better also. If you kill just one mob per 30 sec, dia II is 600 MP per 10 minutes while dia III is 900 per 10 minutes.

MP consumed hasting 2 DDs and a lolDD is 3*40*10/3=400 and yourself 40*10/9=44 due to composure => 444
Refresh on yourself and the DRK => 40*10/7.5+40*10/2.5= 213 MPs
MP used for Dia III => 45*20= 900
total for buffs and debuffs : 900+213+444= 1557

Total MP recovered by the RDM assuming non gimp
ballad : 3 roll : 3 refresh : 3 sanction : 1 gear : 2 = 12/tick -> 2400

MP maximum used for cures : 2400-1557= 843

Since you kill 20 mobs per 10 minutes that's 843/20=42 MP per mob.

1 cure IV every 2 mobs ? That's not even close to being likely. Sub whm yo.

Ok, so I learned a couple of things from this post:

1: You have never parsed against a decent COR
2: You have very bad RDMs, or no PLs
3: You're still Pchan
Edit: 4: You don't refresh DRK's in a meripo, they wouldn't be using any MP..reflect?

I don't merit without my little 75RDM mule standing guard, tossing out Cure IV's like the little baller he is. Here's a picture of my Taru PL, Hex.

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress....ling-bling.jpg

[Sobie]

Zenith Mitts or Goliard Cuffs?

[ZhiGaruda]

Zenith Mitts or Goliard Cuffs?

Situational gear is situational. Zenith mitts if you have otherwise capped MACC, Goliard if not. Always Zenith for Elemental Seal, etc

[pchan]

Ok, so I learned a couple of things from this post:

1: You have never parsed against a decent COR
2: You have very bad RDMs, or no PLs
3: You're still Pchan
Edit: 4: You don't refresh DRK's in a meripo, they wouldn't be using any MP..reflect?

I don't merit without my little 75RDM mule standing guard, tossing out Cure IV's like the little baller he is. Here's a picture of my Taru PL, Hex.

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress....ling-bling.jpg

- Parsed against a decent COR ? lol, cor dd ability sucks period. Even if you do 30% of the total damage, /war will increase this to ... 30*1.15/(70+30*1.15)=33% ! And the effect on the global damage is (70+30*1.15)/100=+4.5% damage ....

- diaII is 11% increase in damage, diaIII 17.6%, diaII > III is 5.8% increase, they all beat the cor DD option.

- lol @ PL rdm poping, lol PL ing in a meripo.

[Shinryuu]

/WAR on COR is 18%ish plus whatever 10 attack from attack bonus gives plus whatever double attack does to Joyeuse and the DNC could be /WHM for Dia II and it'd be more efficient than the COR sacrificing his sub however since you have a DNC the RDM has enough MP to Dia II every fight (I'd argue for Dia III too). This is with two melee fulltiming hasso (and they might need refresh too). Disregard the talks of a RDM mule (which is also very efficient way of meriting, it's dumb bashing it), a party with a DNC and RDM is very self-sufficient. Fuck off, pchan.

Oh, and if you're in a very good party the pulling time approaches a static time (whereas normally it's at least weakly dependent on the killtime) and therefore that cuts down the relative benefit of Dia.

[ZhiGaruda]

- Parsed against a decent COR ? lol, cor dd ability sucks period. Even if you do 30% of the total damage, /war will increase this to ... 30*1.15/(70+30*1.15)=33% ! And the effect on the global damage is (70+30*1.15)/100=+4.5% damage ....

- diaII is 11% increase in damage, diaIII 17.6%, diaII > III is 5.8% increase, they all beat the cor DD option.

- lol @ PL rdm poping, lol PL ing in a meripo.

You're missing the point here. Why go sub WHM when it's unnecessary? The RDM can still Dia2 or 3.

[Deader2818]

If you really want to make the case about dia and such, wouldn't the COR be better off /DNC so the RDM can still cast Dia II or III and the COR can box step for an extra 5% and still assist in healing?

Or does Box Step and Dia not stack?

[Chuburger]

Sorry if this is a 'duh' question but would astaroth cane (INT+2 Magic accuracy +3) be better than Solid Wand (INT+5 MND+5) for nukes/INT-based enfeebles or are they about the same?

Or does Box Step and Dia not stack?

I'm pretty sure they do stack.

[Draylo]

Love torque vs gorget on multi dagger ws.

[Andradi]

Edit: 4: You don't refresh DRK's in a meripo, they wouldn't be using any MP..reflect?

Dread spikes are pretty cool.

[Aurara]

Dalmatica vs Morrigans robe for magic dmg taken.. and how much of a difference is 8 INT vs 5 MDB

[Thorny]

Dalmatica vs Morrigans robe for magic dmg taken.. and how much of a difference is 8 INT vs 5 MDB

Depends on the nuke and monster's MAB, typically Dalmatica will win by a small margin(<5 damage). Coral+1 beats both and idle piece should be more based on your race.

[Soho]

I'm trying to figure out the best Rampage gear for BST/NIN. Mithra with 4/8 Axe Merits and assuming Pizza or possibly Tuna Sushi for Food.

I'm unclear on how much I should be focusing on STR vs ACC vs ATT with Rampage. The gear listed below are my current options with the ones bolded being my main questions... But if there's something good that I'm missing (apart from E.Body) please feel free to suggest that too.

Main: Woodville's Axe
Sub: Maneater
Ammo: Astrolabe
Head: Hecatomb Cap
Neck: Chivalrous Chain vs Peacock Charm vs ???
Ear1: Assault Earring vs Triumph Earring
Ear2: Brutal Earring
Body: Haubergeon +1 vs Hecatomb Harness
Hands: Hecatomb Mittens
Ring1: Sortie Ring vs Flame Ring
Ring2: Rajas Ring
Back: Cuchulain's Mantle vs Forager's Mantle
Waist: Potent Belt vs Warwolf Belt vs ???
Legs: Aurum Cuisses
Feet: Rutter Sabatons vs Hecatomb Leggings

Thanks in advance for any input!