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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    No one has ever implied Neptune's is for stoneskin. It's for Poison II. Jesus Christ.
    What is this world coming to? Of course it's for stoneskin only. Poison requires Juliet's vial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhiGaruda View Post
    What is this world coming to? Of course it's for stoneskin only. Poison requires Juliet's vial.
    you sir, are as unpleasant as an earwig burrowing into ones brain. =)
    p.s stop being afk every gdi i log on ur vent; ;

    and notedly should it not be priority to cap the effect of ss before worrying about the recast, i mean its not the worlds shortest recast.... but its also not that bad... even if you are tanking rdm/nin .... thats what shadows are for no? idk been a while since i rdm/nin'd anything p.s i want stone mufflers; ;

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    Originally Posted by Xerlic View Post
    First off, after finishing MKD, I went with Galea with STR +4, WS Acc +15, and WS Dmg +2%. I'm positive similar questions were asked for this setup vs. STR +6 headpieces, but would this headpiece beat Gnadbod's in most situations for GKT and Pole?

    Yes, +2% WS damage outdoes the STR from Gnadbod's helm for Y/G/K, and it will be better for polearm in general due to the major boost in accuracy allowing you to pump out more stats in other slots.
    I was browsing a previous "What's better?" thread that is now closed and came across this post. I had augmented my MKD Galea with the same Augments because the original intention was to use it as a Namas piece. After finally using it, I realized that I didn't really NEED the accuracy and figured I could use Gnadbhod's Helm for Namas as well as Tachi: Y/G/K. XD

    Does the 2% WS damage really out-do the 2 Str from Ghadbhod's Helm for Tachi: Y/G/K? I figured I'd keep the Augments the way they are because the WS Accuracy is pretty amazing for Rampage and Penta Thrust, and it continues to have the appropriate mods for Namas (No Maat's cap... yet).

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    2STR at best is 1fSTR and 2WSC if we push it. Your base damage during Tachi: Y/G/K will be in the order of 150 or so, probably more. 3/150 increase is exactly 2% - so it's equal to the +2% when you get the full 1fSTR and 2WSC from it and when base damage is comparatively low. Most SAMs will probably push 160+ I would've thought.

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    I don't understand what you mean by the base damage of the weaponskill, but I do understand that in the best case scenario, the 2 extra Str will push my fStr up by 1 more when combined with other Strength gear, which will ultimately give an additional 2% damage.

    Something that we didn't really take into account either is the 8 attack on Gnadbhod's Helm. I know attack is doubled for Gekko, which kind of makes that extra bit moot for most situations, but could it possibly tip it in Gnadbhod's favor?

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    just got erkling's kheten with dmg+6 str+3 attack+6 augments. compare to perdu voulge? I'm pretty set on the erkling's, unless anyone has a good arguement to keep using perdu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivotal View Post
    you sir, are as unpleasant as an earwig burrowing into ones brain. =)
    p.s stop being afk every gdi i log on ur vent; ;

    and notedly should it not be priority to cap the effect of ss before worrying about the recast, i mean its not the worlds shortest recast.... but its also not that bad... even if you are tanking rdm/nin .... thats what shadows are for no? idk been a while since i rdm/nin'd anything p.s i want stone mufflers; ;
    Well, you'll only catch me not-AFK between 9pm and midnight Monday-Thursday, 9pm-sometimelateinthenight Friday. Work, mang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    2STR at best is 1fSTR and 2WSC if we push it. Your base damage during Tachi: Y/G/K will be in the order of 150 or so, probably more. 3/150 increase is exactly 2% - so it's equal to the +2% when you get the full 1fSTR and 2WSC from it and when base damage is comparatively low. Most SAMs will probably push 160+ I would've thought.
    Depends.

    You need 121 STR with Hagun for 150 DMG. 4 head 2 ear 10 body 11 hands 10 rings 5 back 5 waist 5 legs 3 feet or so is +55, which is 121 STR at 66 base STR. However, you can also opt for WSing in Haub+1 (-4 STR) and Forager's (-2 STR) on harder, high defense high level stuff you use GKT on (Jailers, ISNM Puk, some ZNM have really high defense/level and/or you don't get attack buffs on 'em). If so it all depends on race. Either way your assumption was fairly in favor of the extra STR anyway so really can't go wrong with WS+2%. I assumed no extra STR from food due to pizza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pivotal View Post
    ...and notedly should it not be priority to cap the effect of ss before worrying about the recast, i mean its not the worlds shortest recast.... but its also not that bad... even if you are tanking rdm/nin .... thats what shadows are for no? idk been a while since i rdm/nin'd anything p.s i want stone mufflers; ;
    Yeah, thats what they are doing. They are capping Stoneskin while adding Stone Gorget and Mufflers and working on getting their recast capped or as close to cap as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaomii View Post
    Does the 2% WS damage really out-do the 2 Str from Ghadbhod's Helm for Tachi: Y/G/K? I figured I'd keep the Augments the way they are because the WS Accuracy is pretty amazing for Rampage and Penta Thrust, and it continues to have the appropriate mods for Namas (No Maat's cap... yet).
    The MKD head should be better. We still do not know as far as I know if those 2% are added to overwhelm, making it 21%, or computed separately. If it is computed separately then it beats easilly maat's cap's str+7, otherwise it is equivalent to maats cap. AT least with the STR gear I use for my WS set up (140 STR) .

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    NIN TP/WS legs for when B.Haidate aren't available yet, and Oily Trousers are out of price range? Assuming AF2 for TP and ??? for WS?

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    I used Royal Knight's Breeches till I hit 75. Though im sure relic legs would be better for TPing.

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    Af2 for tp and dusk trousers for ws?

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    You just got served THE CALLISTO SPECIAL
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    She has AF2/RK Breeches so far, working on Enkidu's Subligar, not sure what else is out there though.

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    I just got done leveling NIN to 75, sadly, it doesn't seem NIN had many gear choices outside of sky stuff and Enkidu.

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    How much str is needed for Y/G/K/kaiten, hume with str merits? I recall reading that 150 str was the cap and anything beyond, its yielding diminishing returns.
    Basically asking on hnm and regular event mobs (dynamis,limbus,einh).

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    There's no cap on WS mods, there's an fSTR cap that's pretty damn hard to reach but meh. Keep your attack in mind especially for Kaiten. Use Gekko on high defense stuff even if you have an Amano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    There's no cap on WS mods, there's an fSTR cap that's pretty damn hard to reach but meh. Keep your attack in mind especially for Kaiten. Use Gekko on high defense stuff even if you have an Amano.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    She has AF2/RK Breeches so far, working on Enkidu's Subligar, not sure what else is out there though.
    For TP there is Usukane, Shanto acc/haste legs, and Barbarossa's Zereh aside from relic legs.

    For WS there is Usukane, Enkidu, Shura, Pahl. leg, dusk legs or Denali/AF +1 if need acc, and no other option maybe?

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    For Howling Fist and Dragon Kick...

    Genbu's or Shura Kabuto?
    Minuet or Merman's earring?
    Denali or Usu feet?

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