What's Better?

[lolwut]

For the sake of my stupid friend, does anyone have the exact math on how much damage /drg will add over /mnk for kclub drk zerging? Thanks BG

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...aOCbo25A&gid=0

Doesn't show /mnk for 1hander, but nice.

[Yugl]

I think you should kill yourself.

43.3% magic haste
5% turban
3% gloves, 3% legs, 3% feet(homam)
4% swift
1% blitz
=19% haste without shinies

total of 62.3% haste
adding earring makes it 67.3% haste, shield makes it 68.3%(but won't include shield because it's fucking impossible to find)

now, 32.7 goes into 37.7 1.152 times, meaning you get +15.2% damage out of the earring alone

31.7 goes into 37.7 1.189 times, meaning you get +18.9% damage out of the earring+shield

if you have 1500 hp, you'd need to gain 228 hp to have it outdo earring, and 283.5 to have it outdo earring+shield

take out intruder earring(40), won't always be active but meh, and you need 188 hp to have /mnk outdo /drg with earring alone, 243.5 with earring+shield

for shield you lose januwiyah+1, so 213.5

/mnk gives about 80 hp, it's entirely impossible for any near-adequately geared drk to benefit more from /mnk than /drg

BUT YOU FORGOT TO ACCOUNT FOR BOOST!

[ZhiGaruda]

A bunch of useless information and a threat against someones life
4% swift
More useless information here

ARE YOU SAYING REAL DRK'S USE SWIFT BELT BRO

V Belt or stop zerging

[Anomander]

Asking for a friend: On drg with sarissa, which tp combo is better (assuming /sam)

Rose strap + Ares
Pole Strap + Askar

My personal feeling is pole and askar, but not sure.

[Thorny]

ARE YOU SAYING REAL DRK'S USE SWIFT BELT BRO

V Belt or stop zerging

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9...7lowerjeun.jpg
PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR

SIR, YES SIR

[ZhiGaruda]

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9...7lowerjeun.jpg
PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR

SIR, YES SIR

THAT'S GOOD MAGGOT, THAT'S REAL GOOD

[Shinryuu]

Asking for a friend: On drg with sarissa, which tp combo is better (assuming /sam)

Rose strap + Ares
Pole Strap + Askar

My personal feeling is pole and askar, but not sure.

You're correct.

[Mattaru7]

For drg using drakesbane is aurum cuirass better than ares's cuirass in lower acc situtations? and is the Double Attack +2% on Askar body better than the +2 stp, +8dex, +3att, and +3str of aurum body?

[Wolfknight]

For drg using drakesbane is aurum cuirass better than ares's cuirass in lower acc situtations? and is the Double Attack +2% on Askar body better than the +2 stp, +8dex, +3att, and +3str of aurum body?

Assuming your accuracy is uncapped, or you can use Aurum to bump up your crit rate some it should beat ares in most case, and I assume you mean askar vs aurum for TP since no way it would win practically ever on ws, and askar is only better on TP if capped acc, and you're not using sword strap.

[Yugl]

Assuming your accuracy is uncapped, or you can use Aurum to bump up your crit rate some it should beat ares in most case, and I assume you mean askar vs aurum for TP since no way it would win practically ever on ws, and askar is only better on TP if capped acc, and you're not using sword strap.

That depends on the mob and the rest of your gear. If you're talking about something like HNMs or even BLU Mamool++, you're probably getting 1% or less critical hit out of Aurum.

[Byrthnoth]

Makes me mad when I get all buffed up, pop a Warrior's Charge and miss the second hit. qq

So it is a good assumption to make that with a WAR and no SAM in pt, HQ Fighter's should win out, a SAM and no WAR HQ Samurai roll should win out?

What if we're dealing with WAR+SAM?

WAR+SAM, if the SAM is a Polearm SAM then definitely Fighter's. If the SAM is a GKT SAM and the third DD is another GKT SAM, maybe Samurai's.

While I was writing this I realized that both forms of TP rate boost are lossy because sometimes you'll DA the fourth normal swing for WAR with a 5-hit and end up with 120+ TP.

So yeah, I don't know which one works better. I'd be inclined to go with Fighter's with a SAM and a WAR in any situation but 2x GKT SAMs + WAR. Even then, I might go Fighter's. I don't know, someone should actually do the math on it =-p

[nitsuj]

What's the accepted "Best" cape for WHM?


edit: to make this fit better in the thread

Errant vs Ixion vs Aslan vs something else? WHATS BETTER?

[Wolfknight]

What's the accepted "Best" cape for WHM?


edit: to make this fit better in the thread

Errant vs Ixion vs Aslan vs something else? WHATS BETTER?

I am no whm, but Mahatma cape if I had to guess best for non-cure V, and Aslan for cure V?

[GavinBandura]

Yeah Mahatma and then Aslan combo. Don't want to use Ixion for cure V because the extra mnd is offset by the -vit. I used to idle in Umbra, lower cures > IV in Errant and V in Aslan. I know some people like to idle in Errant/Mahatma for the MP though.

[seiji]

BUT YOU FORGOT TO ACCOUNT FOR FOCUS!

!

[Dooom]

In that case, as far as the acc boost I'd definitely guess that it doesn't get the acc boost. I've missed a pretty whopping amount of 2nd hits on Steel Cyclone when forcing DA via Warrior's Charge.

Not so much addressed to Callisto but to everyone posting about Warrior's Charge SCs; if this is eyeballed, then I'd just remind people about what people thought about Y/G/K and other one-hit WS prior to their accuracy being parsed. Many people thought they had an acc penalty because their perceived there to be a larger number of misses than normal, when the opposite was true, it was just that misses stood out more in their mind. So, don't rely on eyeballing. While I'm inclined to believe with you, I don't feel confident in it simply because of the unreliable nature of eyeballing.

[Arximiro]

With 24% haste, is Sparth better than Perdu, assuming you have haste and double march? If not, does it become worth it if you have the set earring on? I'm guessing no, but it seems like a much easier way to cap haste without Uni+1.

[Cream Soda]

70 haste is a 3.33% increase from 69 haste.

Fstr being ignored here, but you'll see the point as the number won't be that far off

96/89 = 7.8% increase in DMG, as well as has acc/attack, ect.

[Callisto]

Not so much addressed to Callisto but to everyone posting about Warrior's Charge SCs; if this is eyeballed, then I'd just remind people about what people thought about Y/G/K and other one-hit WS prior to their accuracy being parsed. Many people thought they had an acc penalty because their perceived there to be a larger number of misses than normal, when the opposite was true, it was just that misses stood out more in their mind. So, don't rely on eyeballing. While I'm inclined to believe with you, I don't feel confident in it simply because of the unreliable nature of eyeballing.

I understand what you mean, though at the same time that Y/G/K placebo effect was largely due to SAM's huge WS frequency since they did technically see misses more often on SAM than other jobs, which isn't as much of an issue with SC...also parsing WC+SC would kind of suck because, outside of high-end you just don't do it that often, and even then there's the 5 minute timer at best. Maybe I can borrow Isladar's Martial Bhuj or something and try it in a LS merit party to gather some actual data.

[Aevis]

hey guys, i'm asking this for a thf friend of mine who can't post here. hopefully some of you math wizards can answer this:

for shark bite with and without sneak attack, will gorget always be better than love torque?

thx in advance.