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  1. #601
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    N.Legs vs Black cuisses

    For guillotine on moderately evasive mobs(limbus/merits/ein)

    Black Cuisses (4 STR 14att) vs Hecatomb sub(8Dex(~6acc) 20att)

    No scythe merits, Haub+1, Perdu

    *EDIT* listing full guillotine build

    O.Hat(heca in high ACC)
    Pole
    Bomb core
    Snow gorget
    Brutal/assault
    Haub+1
    Heca hands
    rajas/ulthalams
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    Life
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    Heca feet

  2. #602
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    Heca for uncapped ACC situations. Limbus (which you listed) shouldn't be, though. Pizza+1 yo.

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    What do people use for Rampage ? Where/When ?

    Maneater + Joyeuse ?
    Maneater + Juggernaut ?
    Others ?

    What's better guys ?

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    If you don't have ridill then you should never be dual wielding.

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    Ok, so Great Axe does better even if you're WAR/NIN in Merits ?

    My Gf has Ares Body, Martial Bhuj, Perdu Voulge, etc..
    I'm not a Warrior these aren't my grounds, what the best WS on GA ?

    What Weapon Skill does help with tha Damage Output ?

  6. #606
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    Probably been asked a bajillion times. If there can only be one, vbow/ebow or Selene's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalandor46 View Post
    Probably been asked a bajillion times. If there can only be one, vbow/ebow or Selene's?

    V-Bow!!! R/E ftw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eole View Post
    Ok, so Great Axe does better even if you're WAR/NIN in Merits ?

    My Gf has Ares Body, Martial Bhuj, Perdu Voulge, etc..
    I'm not a Warrior these aren't my grounds, what the best WS on GA ?

    What Weapon Skill does help with tha Damage Output ?
    GAxe all the way, Perdu Voulge would be the superior of those two choices.
    As far as the 'best' WS to use, that's dependent on your buffs. If you are at or near capped Attack, which varies by mob, you'll want to use King's Justice. For Greater Colibri this typically entails Berserk, meat, and an outside Attack buff such as Chaos Roll or double Minuet.

    If Berserk is down, and/or is your only Attack buff stick to Raging Rush. For birds aim for a RR build that hits 117 DEX while maintaining capped accuracy. Outside of that it's probably better to just stack acc > attack >STR.

  9. #609
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    Get a Rune Chopper.

    edit: and a rdm with half a brain.

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    I'm still not going to refresh(or haste) you Hyriu

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    Sanction + Yagudo Drinks, obv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    GAxe all the way, Perdu Voulge would be the superior of those two choices.
    As far as the 'best' WS to use, that's dependent on your buffs. If you are at or near capped Attack, which varies by mob, you'll want to use King's Justice. For Greater Colibri this typically entails Berserk, meat, and an outside Attack buff such as Chaos Roll or double Minuet.

    If Berserk is down, and/or is your only Attack buff stick to Raging Rush. For birds aim for a RR build that hits 117 DEX while maintaining capped accuracy. Outside of that it's probably better to just stack acc > attack >STR.
    Thank you very much guys !

  13. #613
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    I'm still not going to refresh(or haste) you Hyriu
    'cause you're never on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fottiti View Post
    If you don't have ridill then you should never be dual wielding.
    pointless blanket statement

    Man/Joy still beats most less than perfect GA setups in ein/cities/glacier, though ridill is obviously even better

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    You really think so if you're considering even gear/merits for both setups? Or would that be assuming fully-geared Man/Joy w/ Axe/Sword merits vs. mediocre unmeritted GAxe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    You really think so if you're considering even gear/merits for both setups? Or would that be assuming fully-geared Man/Joy w/ Axe/Sword merits vs. mediocre unmeritted GAxe?
    When i calculated it, i did 8 sword 8 GA(which is my personal merit setup atm). While it depends largely on your gear, typically DW > non-rune chopper GA in accuracy capped situations. It can beat rune chopper, but only if you have the best of the best haste gear, and obviously blitz/dusk feet+1 over toreadors/aurum are costing you a bit of acc and lowering the frequency of accuracy capped situations.

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    Wouldn't that 'best' haste gear bring Perdu up just as much if not more, since you would have a greater chance of remaining at capped accuracy despite moving towards max Haste due to the higher skill/DEX to acc conversion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    Wouldn't that 'best' haste gear bring Perdu up just as much if not more, since you would have a greater chance of remaining at capped accuracy despite moving towards max Haste due to the higher skill/DEX to acc conversion?
    if your acc isn't capped, you don't dw, so missed the point

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    Ok so what is better...

    Nin or Dnc for purely a SOLO only job, aka not xp merit stuff but hard things like charby, bune, roc, simmy, KA, scnms, behemoth, kretz, well you get the idea; hard nms to solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azagarth View Post
    Ok so what is better...

    Nin or Dnc for purely a SOLO only job, aka not xp merit stuff but hard things like charby, bune, roc, simmy, KA, scnms, behemoth, kretz, well you get the idea; hard nms to solo.
    Charby: Both can solo, easier on NIN
    Bune: Neither can solo with 100% reliability, NIN is a bit better
    Roc: Neither can solo, easier to duo on NIN
    Simmy: Neither can solo, very difficult for either to duo
    KA: Both can solo, easier on NIN
    Behemoth: Both can solo, easier on NIN
    Kreutz: Both can solo, easier on NIN
    SCNMs: Neither can solo any of them as far as i know

    I'd say level RDM, but if it's really between those 2 then go for NIN.

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