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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    I'd say level RDM, but if it's really between those 2 then go for NIN.
    And DRG for Roc, Sim and Behe.

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    Nin is better than dnc for solo.

    Yonin, extra shadow, better dd potential and etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    SCNMs: Neither can solo any of them as far as i know
    NIN can do Draketrader Zlodgodd kiting with Ni/San nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewie View Post
    NIN can do Draketrader Zlodgodd kiting with Ni/San nukes.
    same goes for any of the normal run speed ones i suppose, just doesn't sound very fun/viable compared to RDM if the guy is leveling for it

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    Hey Thorny how close would they come to each other with something like this.

    DW war with a ridill, 8 axe 8 sword merits against perdu voulge with 8 GA merits. 5/5 str merits and gear along this line.

    Perdu/Pole grip Bomblet Man/ridill Bomblet
    Turban A Torque Brutal/Hollow Turban F torque Brutal/Suppa
    Adaberk Dusk G+1 Rajas/Blitz Adaberk Dusk G+1 Divisor/Uthalams
    Cuchu Velo B haidate Aurum Cuchu Swift Haidate Dusk f+1

    GA war/sam both with about the same WS gear for their appropiate WS. Mainly in events like ein/limbus/dyna/ZNMs/merits including mamools. Ty for any input on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zatho View Post
    Hey Thorny how close would they come to each other with something like this.

    DW war with a ridill, 8 axe 8 sword merits against perdu voulge with 8 GA merits. 5/5 str merits and gear along this line.

    Perdu/Pole grip Bomblet Man/ridill Bomblet
    Turban A Torque Brutal/Hollow Turban F torque Brutal/Suppa
    Adaberk Dusk G+1 Rajas/Blitz Adaberk Dusk G+1 Divisor/Uthalams
    Cuchu Velo B haidate Aurum Cuchu Swift Haidate Dusk f+1

    GA war/sam both with about the same WS gear for their appropiate WS. Mainly in events like ein/limbus/dyna/ZNMs/merits including mamools. Ty for any input on this.
    Non-Xarc Dynamis: Man/Ridill all the way(use pizza)
    Xarc: GA(still pizza)
    Limbus: Man/Ridill if the additional tp does not impact your group(duoing SE, for example, i wouldn't want tp.. a party of 6 it's going to be irrelevant). Use pizza.
    Einherjar: Man/Ridill if you have rotating brds or at least 2 buffers in your party. Use pizza.
    Colibri Merits: Use Ridill/Joy if considering dual wield, crab sushi. If your support is okay with you subbing SAM and fulltiming hasso(shouldn't get you killed in a good bird party), that will outdo DW.
    Mamool Merits: Maneater/Ridill, pizza
    ZNM: pretty much universally GA, they're relatively high level and have nasty tp for the most part

    Use Rajas/Ancient Torque(assuming you accidentally switched the necks?)/Vbelt/Blitz in your ridill setup too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    I'm still not going to refresh(or haste) you Hyriu
    Do I get Haste?

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    Yeah mainly asked bc as soon as i get back i'm gonna try and parse my war against my really good friend war. He'll be dual wield while i'll GA all the way. I'll see how it goes i'll deff /sam with a 3% haste advantage gear wise on my side and prolly something like brd dnc cor at Mamools.

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    im a brand new RDM. i have some doubts about head/feet gear

    for INT enfees, wuts better, selenian cap with 4 int 2 macc, or elite beret?
    also, for INT enfees, Avocat pigaches or Goliard feet?

    im talking about NM's, like zip/despot and other stuff rdm can solo/duo

    thanks

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    Pretty sure avocat pigaches are completely replaced by goliard for every purpose.

    I'm pretty sure there is no difference between macc and enfeebling skill, and it seems like the worst return int gives is 2int:1macc and best 1int:1macc depending on how far above the mob's int you are. Off hand I can't think of any int enfeebs that really change potency it seems like they are primarily accuracy based, whereas paralyze/slow have an increased effect from mnd. So if they have the same net magic accuracy they are probably interchangeable.

    Selenian cap should at worst match beret with a chance of being better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellic View Post
    im a brand new RDM. i have some doubts about head/feet gear

    for INT enfees, wuts better, selenian cap with 4 int 2 macc, or elite beret?
    also, for INT enfees, Avocat pigaches or Goliard feet?

    im talking about NM's, like zip/despot and other stuff rdm can solo/duo

    thanks
    "wuts better"

    Goliard are the best enfeebling feet for INT enfeebles.
    Morrigans are the best for MND enfeebles (Goliard are second).

    Selenian cap will be equal or better (depending on dINT) than elite beret.

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    Is there actually any difference between enfeebling or elemental skill with magic accuracy?

    If you have 300 skill with 10 magic accuracy would it be the same as 310 skill? Are there skill tiers that you want to be breaking?

    For melees skill gives attack and accuracy (and 0.9 accuracy after 200), but last I heard magic skills had no effect on potency, just accuracy correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by requim View Post
    Pretty sure avocat pigaches are completely replaced by goliard for every purpose.

    I'm pretty sure there is no difference between macc and enfeebling skill, and it seems like the worst return int gives is 2int:1macc and best 1int:1macc depending on how far above the mob's int you are. Off hand I can't think of any int enfeebs that really change potency it seems like they are primarily accuracy based, whereas paralyze/slow have an increased effect from mnd. So if they have the same net magic accuracy they are probably interchangeable.

    Selenian cap should at worst match beret with a chance of being better.
    first, thanks for your answer.
    in second place, since potency doesnt change, and 2 int~1macc... maybe will be better wise cap (5 macc) than selenian (4macc)/elite beret (<4macc)?

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    Eah, wise cap seems like a waste of inventory considering selenian could match it's magic accuracy and in general have more use. You'll be able to use selenian on other mage jobs whereas wise would only be for int based enfeebles since your mnd base ones will have a difference cap.

    Maybe if you wanted to get a wise cap +1, which seemed decently attainable and not that expense, Seraph was like 250k and sold one last month. I wouldn't advise wasting the inventory either way though, but it would depend on how much inventory to spare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by requim View Post
    Eah, wise cap seems like a waste of inventory considering selenian could match it's magic accuracy and in general have more use. You'll be able to use selenian on other mage jobs whereas wise would only be for int based enfeebles since your mnd base ones will have a difference cap.

    Maybe if you wanted to get a wise cap +1, which seemed decently attainable and not that expense, Seraph was like 250k and sold one last month. I wouldn't advise wasting the inventory either way though, but it would depend on how much inventory to spare.
    hmm.. i have enough inv space... so wise cap +1 is the best for int enfees? at least till whead/af2...

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    Stacked evisceration and DE with SA

    Anwig Salade: STR+4 Weapon Skill Accuracy +15 DEX+4 Increases critical hit damage (+2%)

    vs Heca Hat: STR+11 DEX+5

    on greater birds im thinking the salade would generally parse higher but for spiking higher numbers heca obviously will triumph

    as for EP/DC mobs im still on the border if using SA with either ws which hat will win overall im leaning towards heca again but idk 2% dmg boost seems like a decent amt

    ty in advance

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    A 2% increase in crit damage is a 0.38% increase to total WS damage on average with capped dDEX and merits; it's a 0.44% increase with Zahak's Mail (which I believe ended up being weaker than Aurum Cuirass if both capped dDEX). 7 STR is 4.655 base damage. Let's say you have 124 STR before that additional 7 STR.

    fSTR (124-67)/4=14.25 floored to 14. 7 STR raises this to 16.
    WSC floor(floor(124*.50)*.83)=floor(62*.83)=51. 7 STR raises this to 53.

    (53+16)/(51+14)=1.0615, or a 6.15% increase in damage. Heca Cap is far superior. There's really not anywhere you'd make a trade from ACC to DMG gear either.

    One last thing: Hecatomb Cap's increase would be consistent while the Galea would encourage spike damage, not the other way around. Heca would win even if all 4 hits crit though.

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    How do I best use Marduk Shalwar and AF+1 pants on BRD. I don't have room for skill merits and have the following... (I can use the Marduk on SMN too)

    Relic Hat
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    Musical/Loquacious/String (need to buy a singing or wind ear)
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    Omega/Nereid x2 as appropriate

    I'm working on Oracle's Pigaches and could go for the Sea cape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldelphia View Post
    How do I best use Marduk Shalwar and AF+1 pants on BRD. I don't have room for skill merits and have the following... (I can use the Marduk on SMN too)

    Relic Hat
    Yigit/AF+1/Osode
    Wing/String Torque
    Jester's Cape +1
    Gleeman's Belt
    AF+1 Hands
    Musical/Loquacious/String (need to buy a singing or wind ear)
    Goliard Clogs
    Omega/Nereid x2 as appropriate

    I'm working on Oracle's Pigaches and could go for the Sea cape.
    I basically just do Choral+1 for buffs and Marduk for debuffs, but I don't really use BRD for anything heavy-duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    I basically just do Choral+1 for buffs and Marduk for debuffs, but I don't really use BRD for anything heavy-duty.
    Pretty much this.

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