What's Better?

[Chen]

Hecatomb Cap or Maat's Cap for Thf WS?

sir, you're being vague!

[Darkei]

Gondo-shizunori (unlocked) or Onimaru vs colibri birdcamp

no merits on gkt atm

[Argettio]

Gondo-shizunori (unlocked) or Onimaru vs colibri birdcamp

no merits on gkt atm

Polearm IF:

* You have penta specific gear
* Suitable 5hit build
* Willing to spam crab sushi

If the answer is no to any of the above then GKT.

[mdkuser]

its no if you're not getting chaos roll , too.

[Eole]

its no if you're not getting chaos roll , too.

If there is no Chaos Roll; Hagun > Polearm ?
Why ? You'd still be doing 5 Hit and would also have higher Base damage and Damage * 1.25.

Am I wrong ?

[Seedz]

If there is no Chaos Roll; Hagun > Polearm ?
Why ? You'd still be doing 5 Hit and would also have higher Base damage and Damage * 1.25.

Am I wrong ?

You're not wrong, mdkuser is an idiot.

[mdkuser]

I have no math to back it up but I parsed myself against myself, hagun vs polearm, long ago, with just march minuet, haste, mithkabobs ( full usukane for polearm), and hagun was slightly ahead. You probably want to have much more than 450 attack outside of bersek.

[Eole]

I have no math to back it up but I parsed myself against myself, hagun vs polearm, long ago, with just march minuet, haste, mithkabobs ( full usukane for polearm), and hagun was slightly ahead. You probably want to have much more than 450 attack outside of bersek.

Your accuracy wasn't caped, was it ?

[Argettio]

Your accuracy wasn't caped, was it ?

Full usukane + capped pole merits + mithra dex + hasso... no it wasn't capped but it would have be around 92-93.

[Eole]

Full usukane + capped pole merits + mithra dex + hasso... no it wasn't capped but it would have be around 92-93.

Hold on.

Assuming : http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=139058
(Add +3 to DEX and STR because Rajas is bugged.)

Mithra SAM/WAM
Polearm Skill = 263
Base DEX 75

+31 DEX
+53 Accuracy
Total Accuracy = 389
Total Accuracy with Hasso = 399

If that's how you gear up, that's indeed not bad.
Please let us know.

Still, I find it weird that you'd do more with 6hit GTK, it doesn't make sense to me :O
What is your Polearm WS Set ?

[Argettio]

Hold on.

Assuming : http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=139058
(Add +3 to DEX and STR because Rajas is bugged.)

Mithra SAM/WAM
Polearm Skill = 263
Base DEX 75

+31 DEX
+53 Accuracy
Total Accuracy = 389
Total Accuracy with Hasso = 399

If that's how you gear up, that's indeed not bad.
Please let us know.

Still, I find it weird that you'd do more with 6hit GTK, it doesn't make sense to me :O
What is your Polearm WS Set ?

mdkuser's SAM is certainly full usukane and has most of the other nice things, so yes he would be close to that sort of numbers.

As for his parsing and view on Polearm vs GKT, IDK. I was just commenting that he could use meat on birds with a polearm at a decent hit rate.

[Shinryuu]

with just march minuet

Lost all credibility.

Wait, you didn't have any.

Second thoughts: surprised you actually had a BRD.

[pchan]

Lost all credibility.

Wait, you didn't have any.

Second thoughts: surprised you actually had a BRD.

K, mister "i use meat with polearm because of zanshin". Just so you know, meat is almost useless with chaos, beserk and dia.

[Argettio]

K, mister "i use meat with polearm because of zanshin". Just so you know, meat is almost useless with chaos, beserk and dia.

So meat is useless with chaos, berserk and dia

Yet you are defending March/Minuet for meriting songs?

If meat is useless then so is Minuet, not to mention the fact Minuet isn't as good as march even when you get full use out of the attack.

No matter how you look at this, and no matter how personal you try and make it, mdkuser parsed the two weapons with sub-par buffs.

[pchan]

So meat is useless with chaos, berserk and dia

Yet you are defending March/Minuet for meriting songs?

If meat is useless then so is Minuet, not to mention the fact Minuet isn't as good as march even when you get full use out of the attack.

No matter how you look at this, and no matter how personal you try and make it, mdkuser parsed the two weapons with sub-par buffs.

Noones is defending minuet, idiot. His point was that he had minuet, which provides a bit less attack than chaos, you might want to try reading.

[Shinryuu]

Of course that was his point. It still shows how fucking retarded you and your buddy are. Go back to being banned.

[Argettio]

Noones is defending minuet, idiot. His point was that he had minuet, which provides a bit less attack than chaos, you might want to try reading.

You seem to be getting unnecessarily aggressive about some one pointing out a simple fact: MDKUSER's parses are not a good comparison between the 2 weapon types due to the sub-par buffs.

Not sure why... could be something to do with being mad... but I'm not 100% sure.

[Viq]

Of course that was his point. It still shows how fucking retarded you and your buddy are. Go back to being banned.

He should be next week. I'm sure his pal will send me more PMs about the ban despite any future bans not being on my dime.

[pchan]

He should be next week. I'm sure his pal will send me more PMs about the ban despite any future bans not being on my dime.

what PM ? I don't know you bro.

[Viq]

Because you are your own pal? That's pretty sad.