What's Better?

[FailureMidgard]

As far as Aurum goes 90% of what I fight isn't a bird and is varied mobs in events or big things. Tbh I nor anyone else knows each of these mob's evasion so I prefer the acc from Aurum because I guarantee I'm not at the acc cap on some of them, which ones I don't know always. But yeah, reason number one is that Dusk looks like you are trying to be a duck.

Don't worry though, SE will make some Haste+3% (full time) feet eventually that have some accuracy, so the world will be peaceful once again then.

Yet you use an Ares Body?

[Aevis]

I already beat Relic DDs half the time, but I would like to do that more of the time, feels good. Thanks.

erm.. you know arx i'm not trying to fall into your back because of the same ls thing and all that, but do you relate all those "i beat x" stuff on outside LS happenings? i'm not denying that you are a good dd but our LS parse history compared to a sentence like the one above makes me scratch my head a little.

[Arximiro]

If the best u can come up with to bash me is the rl card then i feel pity for u. U keep giving sath shit bc he doesn't know his priorities u say. Mainly bc he uncursed his 2 heca HQs when he wasn't even going after bravura yet u have sold 2 speed belts to buy cerb mantle +1 not even dusk gloves HQ and to tp with a swift belt. Talk shit about people's priorities when u learn to understand the meaning of the word. When u do so come back to BG so i can make u look dumb some moar okies ty very much.

I'm actually buying V.belt very soon. 0/3 on drop thus far. Dusk Hands +1 will be purchased once some are for sell. I'm also curious who you actually are, since you know I've sold 2 Speed Belts you must be on Cerberus. If you have anything else to say of relevance, put on your 2nd grade spelling hat and try again.

[BerenTebogo]

All I see in those pics are Byakko's axe and Perdu. Where is the Rune before Bravura? Do as I say, not as I do? 50k for a rune could have come hours before the meriting to get IS for Perdu.

I don't think I've ever specifically advocated rune chopper, I +1'd a post about getting better RDMs because if you DO use rune chopper your RDMs should easily be able to haste you unless they are retarded.

Also, fun fact: The math for rune chopper wasn't widely accepted (yes it existed for a while before) until maybe ~2-3 weeks before getting my abaddon killer, at which time all my merits were capped since I had only two 75 jobs on the character, WAR and PLD.

Funner fact? I used rune chopper up until I got my byakko's and traded one for the other because the math direct data didn't at that time exist yet (to my knowledge anyways)

I'd say it's more a case of don't ask stupid questions if you don't know want stupid answers. The +% haste joke @ arx is about his refusal to use blitz ring up until like 4 days ago because crit builds are fucking awesome! It has no bearing whatsoever on rune chopper or my opinions regarding the pros and cons of it.

More fun facts? Thorny is entirely right about opportunity costs. I paid 1.75m combined for the nfeet and nhands abjurations and it took me about two months of waiting for them to drop for the LS I was buying them from. Not a scenario I'd like to repeat. My current priorities? I play WAR twice a week in dynamis and 1-2 times a week in Salvage. I can spend all the money I have now along with all the money I may potentially make in the next 10-14 days for 1% haste or I can finish my HQ staff collection, buy mahatma slops and an enfeebling torque for RDM and more than double my weekly net income for a small investment cost and a little patience.

I wonder which is better?

[Thorny]

Tbh I nor anyone else knows each of these mob's evasion so I prefer the acc from Aurum because I guarantee I'm not at the acc cap on some of them, which ones I don't know always.

DEX+3 Acc+7 Haste+1

STR+6 Attack+12

hm, wonder how you're gonna justify taking the second option this time

[Arximiro]

I'll justify it the same way I do everytime. I don't use Dusk+1 because they are ugly as balls. I just threw that piece of info in to add another reason. I'm typically always at capped accuracy so it's rarely a problem anyway. With Pizza Ares Body beats Berk+1 by quite a lot.

[Zatho]

Sorry that my spelling upsets u so much and is really hard to read under my name which server i'm from. Tbh i'm bored and u make this way too f easy, i know u were lucky enough to get 2 speed belts and stupid to the point of selling both before getting a V belt then selling the speed belt. Carry on amuse me and the rest of us more with ur excuses about why ur poor choices are so awesome.

[FailureMidgard]

I'll justify it the same way I do everytime. I don't use Dusk+1 because they are ugly as balls. I just threw that piece of info in to add another reason. I'm typically always at capped accuracy so it's rarely a problem anyway. With Pizza Ares Body beats Berk+1 by quite a lot.

I think you're delusional if you think your current setup looks the best. Also, why blink for WS? You know what looks good? Sunglasses. Fuck Turban dude, fulltime sunglasses.

[Demosthenes11]

And for the record I have took advice from here and discarded others that was not so good. Everything said here isn't correct. Human error is an epidemic, would you believe that?

lol, you didn't discard the advice because it was bad, you said "because they are ugly and other things" almost verbatim

I'll justify it the same way I do everytime. I don't use Dusk+1 because they are ugly as balls.

QED

[Arximiro]

I think you're delusional if you think your current setup looks the best. Also, why blink for WS? You know what looks good? Sunglasses. Fuck Turban dude, fulltime sunglasses.

Nice man that was a clever one. Sunglasses do look cool! You sure burned me there, I bet all the guys think you are super cool now. Take a bow.

Edit: Oh and Sath, I've been using Blitz for quite awhile, although I admit I did bounce between that and Thunder when working with Dex builds. Another thing, if you come to Cerberus I'll buy you a pair of the oh so expensive Dusk+1 feet just so you are forced to use them, because I know you really don't want to.

[FailureMidgard]

Nice man that was a clever one. Sunglasses do look cool! You sure burned me there, I bet all the guys think you are super cool now. Take a bow.

Oh, so you're admitting you do choose gear based on stats?

[Arximiro]

Since you think my sets are so misguided in my Sig Failure. Post an alternate TP and KJ while AGG is up setup that would be better and that doesn't include items I'm currently working towards. Obviously I don't have an E-body or a Fort Torque sitting around, otherwise I'd be using them. Please enlighten me.

[JnnnnnL]

Birds: KC/Culvy+1 RNG/DRG >= SAM/DRG Soboro/Yochi > Rest
Mamools: KC/Culvy+1 RNG/DRG >= SAM/DRG Soboro/Yochi > Rest
Einherjar: Really depends Id say SAM/NIN.
Salvage: SAM/WAR Soboro/Yochi> KC/Culvy+1 (SJ depending on MB or not) > Rest
HNMs: Depends as DRK can tank while doing great damage. RNG with Anni will take the longest to hit the hate cap. But overall damage I think Amano SAM would be the best pure DD.

Thx alot for answering, but doesn't "RNG with Anni will take the longest to hit the hate cap" mean RNG would actually win ? I mean even if sam would do dmgs faster when he'll reach his "hate cap" he'll either die or have to stop doing dmgs, while the rng will be able to keep doing full dmgs so overall wouldn't the rng win ?

PS : I knew about culvy+1 but I was wondering how anni does compared to it, but ty again for answering

[FailureMidgard]

Since you think my sets are so misguided in my Sig Failure. Post an alternate TP and KJ while AGG is up setup that would be better and that doesn't include items I'm currently working towards. Obviously I don't have an E-body or a Fort Torque sitting around, otherwise I'd be using them. Please enlighten me.

Huh? I don't think the sets in your sig are terrible, I think the bullshit you are spewing about dusk+1 feet is terrible. When I said "I think you're delusional if you think your current setup looks best", I was referring to aesthetics, since you claim that's why you're not using dusk+1 feet.

And furthermore, Dusk+1/Haub+1/Bombcore is better than your current setup.

[BerenTebogo]

Nice man that was a clever one. Sunglasses do look cool! You sure burned me there, I bet all the guys think you are super cool now. Take a bow.

Edit: Oh and Sath, I've been using Blitz for quite awhile, although I admit I did bounce between that and Thunder when working with Dex builds. Another thing, if you come to Cerberus I'll buy you a pair of the oh so expensive Dusk+1 feet just so you are forced to use them, because I know you really don't want to.

ITT: Aurum body is the fucking ugliest piece of trash in the game but it gives me a 6-hit so I use it 24/7 but Dusk +1 feet are ugly and that's the real reason I won't use them. Damn, how could you see through my cleverly planned misdirection?

[tsaroth816]

DEX+3 Acc+7 Haste+1

STR+6 Attack+12

hm, wonder how you're gonna justify taking the second option this time

I don't follow these stats...where can I get them?!

Was the original question "Erlking VS Perdu, please leave out Rune chopper"? If so, Erlking can get 1 more DMG than Perdu, combine that with STR+4~5, DA+2 and I say that beats Perdu. Need that 5acc? Swap bombcore to bomblet. Attack means shit anyway, right people that melee in alky because they put 5 merits into DEX?

[Argettio]

I don't follow these stats...where can I get them?!

Was the original question "Erlking VS Perdu, please leave out Rune chopper"? If so, Erlking can get 1 more DMG than Perdu, combine that with STR+4~5, DA+2 and I say that beats Perdu. Need that 5acc? Swap bombcore to bomblet. Attack means shit anyway, right people that melee in alky because they put 5 merits into DEX?

Thorny is referring to Arximiro using Aurum feet and Ares rather than dusk +1 and haub+1

[tsaroth816]

Thorny is referring to Arximiro using Aurum feet and Ares rather than dusk +1 and haub+1

ty, makes sense to me now.

[Arximiro]

How is Haub+1 better than Ares Body under capped Acc? I use Haub+1 when Agg is down. And yes I know Dusk feet+1 are better during capped Acc, no need to bring that up a 500th time. Even with Ares Body on, eating pizza I could still use Dusk+1 feet and be over the cap when Agg is up.

[Argettio]

How is Haub+1 better than Ares Body under capped Acc? I use Haub+1 when Agg is down. And yes I know Dusk feet+1 are better during capped Acc, no need to bring that up a 500th time. Even with Ares Body on, eating pizza I could still use Dusk+1 feet and be over the cap when Agg is up.

You are starting on the wrong person.

I was simply explain what thorny was talking about.