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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    This. I would change the hat as soon as help is available.
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    Haven't seen this question posed anywhere so:

    For RNG Sidewinders, Skadi's Jambeaux, Hachiryu Sune-ate, or Scout's Socks? Presently use Skadi but am tempted to find a pair of Sune-ate to try. I'm a Mithra, if that makes any difference.

    http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...s_Jambeaux.jpg vs http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...u_sune-ate.PNG vs http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...coutsSocks.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadida View Post
    Haven't seen this question posed anywhere so:

    For RNG Sidewinders, Skadi's Jambeaux, Hachiryu Sune-ate, or Scout's Socks? Presently use Skadi but am tempted to find a pair of Sune-ate to try. I'm a Mithra, if that makes any difference.

    http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...s_Jambeaux.jpg vs http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...u_sune-ate.PNG vs http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...coutsSocks.png
    I had asked this, along with other related questions too, a page ago =X

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    I don't understand why hachiryu sune-ate is an option. I don't know much about ranger, correct me if I'm wrong, but according to wiki, 2AGI=1Racc. So skadi is always better than hachiryu (err maybe not of you got full hachiryu set...). Skadi vs scouts is a matter of being accuracy caped or not.

    edit; forgot WSCs, but the conclusion should be the same since str also counts as fSTR, unless you are unlucky enough so that 3 str on skadi only increase base dmg by 1...

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    1 STR (probably) and 5 racc vs 10 Attack vs 2 WSC and 5 racc.

    (if you ignore the sTP and enmity)

    2 WSC > 1 fSTR (as they both count as a base damage)
    5 racc = 5 racc

    So it looks like Hachiryu are better than Skadi.

    As for Hachiryu vs Scouts, I am sure that comes down to accuracy capped or otherwise.

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    Just in general, would Yigit Gages or Morrigan's Cuffs be better for nuking on low-resist mobs? I'm not sure how magic damage works in terms of INT vs. MAB, but in general, I think I would benefit more from extra MAB over the INT, because I'm a taru, but I could be wrong. Any insight on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandorablue View Post
    Just in general, would Yigit Gages or Morrigan's Cuffs be better for nuking on low-resist mobs? I'm not sure how magic damage works in terms of INT vs. MAB, but in general, I think I would benefit more from extra MAB over the INT, because I'm a taru, but I could be wrong. Any insight on this?
    Assuming BLM with decent gear:

    In terms of pure damage:
    T4, T3 -ga and AMII = Zenith mitts/Morrigans
    T3 and lower = Yigit

    The difference is small and probably not worth the inventory to take Yigits just for T3 nukes. But if you are carrying them, then its worth macroing them for a few extra damage.

    Assuming RDM with decent gear:

    In terms of pure damage:
    T3 = Zenith mitts/Morrigans
    T2 and lower = Yigit

    Personally I would use Morrigans for RDM, the m.acc should mean Morrigans is as accurate Yigit and the damage will be higher. But I am not a fan of Zenith Mitts on a RDM as their accuracy can be pretty flaky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argettio View Post
    1 STR (probably) and 5 racc vs 10 Attack vs 2 WSC and 10 racc.

    (if you ignore the sTP and enmity)

    2 WSC > 1 fSTR (as they both count as a base damage)
    10 racc > 5 racc

    So it looks like Hachiryu are better than Skadi.

    As for Hachiryu vs Scouts, I am sure that comes down to accuracy capped or otherwise.
    Why are you giving Hachi 10 Racc? 10 AGI is 5 Racc, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hegarty View Post
    Why are you giving Hachi 10 Racc? 10 AGI is 5 Racc, no?
    True stupid moment on my part. BRB, inc ninja edit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argettio View Post
    1 STR (probably) and 5 racc vs 10 Attack vs 2 WSC and 5 racc.

    (if you ignore the sTP and enmity)

    2 WSC > 1 fSTR (as they both count as a base damage)
    5 racc = 5 racc

    So it looks like Hachiryu are better than Skadi.

    As for Hachiryu vs Scouts, I am sure that comes down to accuracy capped or otherwise.
    rng has fSTR2

    3 STR = 1.98 base damage on average, 1.5 r.att
    10 AGI = 2.5 WSC
    same r.acc on both of them

    of course, which is actually better will depend on WSC.. if skadi gives you a WSC and a FSTR2 it'll always win.. if you don't care to calculate these things then hachiryu are a better piece(using average based on a normal distribution of stats)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
    I don't understand why hachiryu sune-ate is an option. I don't know much about ranger, correct me if I'm wrong, but according to wiki, 2AGI=1Racc. So skadi is always better than hachiryu (err maybe not of you got full hachiryu set...). Skadi vs scouts is a matter of being accuracy caped or not.

    edit; forgot WSCs, but the conclusion should be the same since str also counts as fSTR, unless you are unlucky enough so that 3 str on skadi only increase base dmg by 1...
    Perhaps it has to do with the stp set effect?
    Feet+ legs is 5 stp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xIndustrialxAngelx View Post
    So I'm new to the Ranger club, and I have few questions with some gear options.

    First off, for a tp setup, let's say Hunter's Beret +1 vs Maat's cap? I'll say with rapid shot maxed out (merits wise).

    the 2nd one, is the really confusing one to me, with stp, tp'ing phase with skadi legs + scouts socks, and rose strap /war, is 6 hit (E bow). Having Hachi legs/feet, gives the same stp as well as skadi legs, which would be the better combo? I'm basing this on me having Crimson Hands for tp, for ranged attk. This applies to ws, I assume Hachi legs/feet are better to ws than hachi legs/skadi feet?

    Another question is, going from Crimson hands, to say.. Skadi hands? Skadi hands better tp'ing gloves?

    Also, snapshot, I have it fully meritted, is say.... SCNM helm + snap shot +2 belt, better than another tp'ing hat (answer from first question) is there a cap to snapshot like haste? I'm such a rng noob =(
    Sorry - search didn't catch your abbreviations and stuff. My opinions on each of your points:

    Htr. Beret +1 vs. Maat's Cap: I don't have Maat's so I can't say for sure. I know a lot of RNGs with Maat's who basically full-time it, but Htr. Beret +1 is great and gives the Rapid Shot bonus which is noticeable. However, I think this is all moot because Zha'Go's Barbut is superior to both. (Unless there's a snapshot cap which I'll get into later.) Just the stats alone w/o the Snapshot make it worth using, so if you can get your hands on one do it ASAP.

    Skadi/Scouts vs. Hachiryu for STP set: If you have Skadi available to you I'd go with those. I'm 0/60+ on the damn 5FN frog, so I can't tell you from experience, but you're basically comparing +10 STR +10 AGI (and +5 R.atk +5 r.acc) with +15 R.atk +4 r.acc. I've always felt that STR doesn't have a substantial effect on normal ranged attacks vs. using R.atk, so I'd stick with the Skadi/Scout's combo.

    Crimson vs. Skadi: Crimson all the way. Skadi's great for WS's when you can manage the accuracy properly but it's no contest for TP. I used Skadi hands for TP for a while when I first got them, but I'm glad I came around - accuracy and damage are much better when using BFG. For Slugwinders though, absolutely use Skadi as long as you're not shorting yourself on r.acc in the process.

    Snapshot: I've been trying to do some testing of Snapshot but it isn't going so great, mostly because there's about a .1-.2 second variance for every shot which makes pinpointing times very difficult. However, my preliminary results say that if the ACP body with Snapshot+5 is really Snapshot+5, then Zha'Go's Barbut is +3 Snapshot and Ebon Jerkin is Snapshot +3. I don't have Commodore's Gants or a Snapshot+ belt from MMM to test (though I hope to soon, gotta get on that). It's getting harder and harder to test as I approach higher values of Snapshot though - I'm not sure why this is.

    In any case, right now I'd assume there is no hard cap on Snapshot, and even if there was I wouldn't expect Snapshot from merits to factor into that cap. For my TP build right now I'm rolling with Snapshot+18 (10 from merits, 5 from ACP, 3 from Zha'Go's if my testing is right) and I'd consider using a Snapshot belt, especially if it had any R.acc on it.

    If anyone knows more about any of these things feel free to chime in. Also thanks for the replies on Sidewinder feet - I'll probably give Sune-ate a try soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadida View Post
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    In any case, right now I'd assume there is no hard cap on Snapshot, and even if there was I wouldn't expect Snapshot from merits to factor into that cap.
    More Stuff.
    I'm going to assume there is a cap on snap shot like there's a cap on Haste/-BPtime/Recast/etc.
    I'll probably match somewhere around -15 BP timer, or 25% haste.

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    I think it's fairly safe to assume that, albeit it being shittily tested, you will not go anywhere near a possible snapshot cap if you wear all possible snapshot gear, merits and that JA.

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    Thanks so much, it really helps me feel a little more confident with my rng choices then, I really appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    rng has fSTR2

    3 STR = 1.98 base damage on average, 1.5 r.att
    10 AGI = 2.5 WSC
    same r.acc on both of them

    of course, which is actually better will depend on WSC.. if skadi gives you a WSC and a FSTR2 it'll always win.. if you don't care to calculate these things then hachiryu are a better piece(using average based on a normal distribution of stats)
    AH fSTR2....

    I was flooring the WSC, as I didn't know the rest of the set I didn't know if the 0.5 would have counted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asherah View Post
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    Just curious but has anyone tested Dirge/Sirvente with Ghorn? Also has anyone figured out if it is cumulative or volatile enmity?

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