Michele Bachmann: Spectacle or Prophet?

[Neosutra]

I refuse to believe Lief believes any of that crap.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Guys I hate to do this but Leif is correct. He's not trolling at all. He, like most of the current crop of base authoritarian conservatives in this country, simply believes the bullshit and lies he shovels.

So let him shovel it on your ignore list and save yourselves the aggravation.

Yes, clearly conservatives are the authoritarian's lulz.

[Plow]

just reading through this thread now and...

Now, let's look at the Republicans. They run on a platform of colorblindness. They don't let racists or ex-Klansmen into the party.

holy fucking roflcopters batman

[Ksandra]

Sailor Jupiter is not a lesbian per say, but there is a wealth of material which indicates she had a relationship with Sailor Mercury which went beyond friendship.

Most of the material I speak of would not be considered "canon," however.

I should probably specify that Leif asked about this several posts back.

meh it was a retarded question that was completely irrelevant that he could answer two seconds on google, so I didn't bother responding to it.

But ya she's not a les, though I'm sure there's fan fiction that'll say otherwise.

[6souls]

Michele has released her Declaration of Health Care Independence;

In order to retain the Blessings of Liberty as secured to us by our Founding Fathers and as expressed in our Constitution, We the People reject the imposition upon us of a new, Washington-controlled system of government-run health care. We demand Constitutional protection of the right to make our own health decisions and our own health care choices free of government denials, bureaucratic red-tape, and greater intergenerational debt.

A Washington takeover of American health care will

1) Deny fundamental personal and economic liberties and indisputably violate the Principle of Limited Government as established by the Constitution;
2) Impose increased costs and taxes upon individuals, families, and businesses, as well as taxpayers at the federal, state, and local levels;
3) Irreparably cripple the American economy, at the cost of jobs, businesses, productivity, and quality of life;
4) Create an inescapable new tax by imposing individual and employer mandates;
5) Institutionalize a massive, ever-expanding federal bureaucracy that is impersonal and impractical;
6) Empower bureaucrats to interfere in the doctor-patient relationship, undermine the quality of care, limit choice, and increase the cost of health care.

We have appealed to the decency of the elected majority to respect the rights of all Americans, but their leaders have been deaf to the Voice of the People. We are appalled by their cavalier disregard of the Constitution and of the demands of the People. We are repulsed by their blatant political bribes and kickbacks. We, therefore, the People and Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, do solemnly Publish and Declare that health care reform, as a matter of principle must

1) Protect as inviolate the vital doctor-patient relationship;
2) Reject any addition to the crushing national debt heaped upon all Americans;
3) Improve, rather than diminish, the quality of care that Americans enjoy;
4) Be negotiated publically, transparently, with genuine accountability and oversight, and be free from political favoritism;
5) Treat private citizens at least as well as political officials;
6) Protect taxpayers from compulsory funding of abortion;
7) Reject all new mandates on patients, employers, individuals, or states;
8} Prohibit expansion of taxpayer funded health care to those unlawfully present in the United States;
9) Guarantee Equal Protection under the law and the Constitution;
10) Empower, rather than limit, an open and accessible marketplace of health care choice and opportunity.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennt...n__leaked.html

It is supposed to be read aloud to a press conference today.

Washington, D.C., Jan 26 -

U.S. Representative Michele Bachmann (MN-06), along with House and Senate Republicans, will formally unveil the Declaration of Health Care Independence on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 2:30 p.m. in HVC-201. The Declaration of Health Care Independence is a commitment to protect the rights of the American people to make their own health decisions, reduce bureaucratic red-tape, decrease intergenerational debt, and includes 10 common-sense principles that must be included in future health care reforms.

Who: Congresswoman Michele Bachmann and other House & Senate Republicans
What: Press Conference to formally unveil the Declaration of Health Care Independence
When: Wednesday, January 27th @ 2:30 p.m.
Where: U.S. Capitol, HVC-201

*Due to security for the State of the Union, the Capitol Visitor’s Center is closed to the public at noon. Only credentialed media, congressional staff, and Members of the House and Senate will be permitted.

http://bachmann.house.gov/News/Docum...umentID=167719

[Olo401]

When this hypocritical bitch drops the health insurance that is provided to her as a condition of her employment to the U.S. House of Representatives, call me.

[Leif]

When this hypocritical bitch drops the health insurance that is provided to her as a condition of her employment to the U.S. House of Representatives, call me.

Why are you so obsessed with this victim mentality. Unless someone has "felt the pain you feel", you refuse to take them seriously?

Why is she a hypocrite?

[Correction]

What negative effects of religion on politics?

If we only talk about Islam then we might have a discussion, but religion?

Hey Leif, still running away from these words?

[Leif]

Hey Leif, still running away from these words?

Obviously not, considering I explained it a few posts ago.


Are you still chasing me with uninteresting accusations?

[Correction]

So you still claim that Christian and Jewish influence in politics has not harmed American interests abroad? Because this thread is full of counterexamples.

[Leif]

Correct. And this thread is not full of counterexamples.

[Leif]

just reading through this thread now and...



holy fucking roflcopters batman

If it's as ridiculous as you say, it should be easy to prove me wrong!

Sailor Jupiter is not a lesbian per say, but there is a wealth of material which indicates she had a relationship with Sailor Mercury which went beyond friendship.

Most of the material I speak of would not be considered "canon," however.

I should probably specify that Leif asked about this several posts back.

See, I always knew there was a relationship between two other girls, the tall blonde girl with short hair and some other girl, but Sailor Jupiter plays into the stereotypes a lot, so I always wondered about that too.

[Correction]

If it's as ridiculous as you say, it should be easy to prove me wrong!

http://i49.tinypic.com/2yluxra.jpg
hi there!

[Plow]

If it's as ridiculous as you say, it should be easy to prove me wrong!

rofl, you're even dumber than the crazy hyper-conservatives I've been arguing this shit with for 20 years


The republican party is not a big building with security guards stopping people at the door going "Can I see your 'I'm not a racist' card?" and blocking those that don't have them from coming in to register.


And before you decide to say "well they don't elect them!" I'll just inform you that I've known Todd Tihart almost my entire life.

[Plow]

Well I got through all the kuya pointing out neo's massive hypocrisy stuff and him ignoring it because he can't face reality and I came across this moment of brilliance:

vietnam, korea

I don’t have the bandwidth to check the actual deaths in those 3 mini wars, but I wouldn’t say the death toll was in the millions for them (I may be wrong).

And wow, that's quite a stunner coming from the self proclaimed expert that's too good to bother learning about sociology because he knows everything, particularly seeing how he's in the military as a grunt "to make it better" and claims to be building better killing machines for the purpose of avoiding killing.

The best part is the description of the Vietnam War as a "min-war."

Guess somebody never noticed the 15+ fucking years it went on for.

Although, I suppose that part is easier to miss than the 3 million+ civilian casualties and million+ military.


But then came the highlight of this thread:

The soldier fighting in Afghanistan going on and on about how he's there to make things better, and how he cares so much about the people...

Afganie

ROFL... I can't believe I ever spent any time on this kid at all.


Seriously, though, neo, take this however you want, it really is just friendly advice: stop trying to act informed about things you have no grasp of whatsoever.

You're absolutely right about the Afghanistan reasoning thing, we went there to get back at the Taliban. Stick to things like that where you actually have a clue.

[Olo401]

http://i49.tinypic.com/2yluxra.jpg
hi there!

http://www.constitutioncenter.org/ti...le40_12231.jpg http://www.albionmonitor.com/0212a/lott.jpg

Hey we know this guy.. he's on our team!

[Elvis]

http://mondoweiss.net/2010/01/at-yal...-accusers.html

Just saw this today, on Mondoweiss (excellent I-P blog):

200-foot wide Star of David, Israeli soldiers carved into Palestinian farmland in Gaza with their tanks. (Photo: UNOSAT)

http://mondoweiss.net/images/gazastarofdavid.jpg

Judge Richard Goldstone gave a speech at Yale last night and though he said he would not be talking about Gaza, his report came up again and again, and in fact the anti-Goldstoners tried to turn the event into a circus. They waved Israeli flags, and two of them held up a banner comparing the judge’s report to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the accusers of Dreyfus. A group followed the judge afterward into the wine-and-cheese on the second floor, and surrounded him and some barked at him, and though now and then the judge held up his hand and turned away at a loud voice, he seemed ready for anything, and more than held his own, and left the crowd with an education in what it means to try and advance the regime of international law.

[...]And when someone said that Israelis would not do such things, would not inflict wanton destruction–this was another Israeli, a woman, who had been in the army for Lebanon ‘06–the judge said that she should look at the satellite imagery accompanying his report (the report is a pdf). Israeli soldiers in their tanks had carved a 200-foot wide Star of David into Palestinian farmland in Gaza, to be seen from the sky.

[Plow]

I think you mean Israilie.