Phoenix Online School

[Tricen]

I think employers would hire someone who graduated with a university degree versus Phoenix or say just a community college.

It is the main reason I am glad I got into one of the top 15 nursing schools of the country instead of having to settle for attending a community college to get my nursing degree. Plus it is a Bachelors not a Associates.

Employers (generally) will hire the cheapest they can get, as long as they have a legit piece of paper saying they fulfilled x amount of requirements for y diploma. No I don't have a vendetta against college. >=(

[Mertron]

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[Guyverarmor]

I'm going to DeVry online right now to get my Bachelor's in Computer Network Information Security Systems. It does take a lot more discipline since you are just in front of your computer, instead of being in a classroom. Many a times I have caught myself logging onto WoW in the middle of posting . But with work schedules these days, online courses are becoming a norm now.

Personally, only way I am gonna be finishing mine is with online, due to me work in the evening time and soon my first child is on the way, so I will be full with them in the morning

[Kerberoz]

It entirely depends on the field.

[Furtwangler]

Where do you work misterbob? I'm going to RIT, for software engineering and I know in this field the school you go to makes a difference, unless you're just a coding prodigy or something. Other fields will obviously vary. For instance Microsoft, among other companies in the field have a list of preferred schools they will send recruiters out to (we're one of them) and I guarantee that gives me at least twice the chance of getting a job there vs someone who went to an online school or community college.
Yea, I pay 38 a year (before aid and scholarships and shit) to go here, but I'm almost guaranteed an edge in future employment because of the schools reputation in some of its programs, and it's excessive internship requirements.

[aduidarnenye]

The difference between a GED and a high school diploma is you likely got the latter by the time you were 18 and got the former later in life because you were unable to get the latter earlier. The assumption is, therefore, you were unable to complete the material once and had to 'redo' it to get the GED. Failing high school is generally taken as being dumb.

I'm not sure how this translates into the stigma against online universities.

[Sol-Blackguy]

The difference between a GED and a high school diploma is you likely got the latter by the time you were 18 and got the former later in life because you were unable to get the latter earlier. The assumption is, therefore, you were unable to complete the material once and had to 'redo' it to get the GED. Failing high school is generally taken as being dumb.

I'm not sure how this translates into the stigma against online universities.

Only half right about GED=Flunked out. Sometimes people that move during high school have trouble with their credits carrying over. Best example would be some one that invested credits into a JROTC program and goes to a school that doesn't have that program. In most circumstances those credits wouldn't be counted and would have to repeat 1~2 years for electives even though they completed their core classes. Also depending on your state, some schools won't let you enroll for a 5th if your 18th birthday occurs before you graduate.

[Ensam]

The difference between a GED and a high school diploma is you likely got the latter by the time you were 18 and got the former later in life because you were unable to get the latter earlier. The assumption is, therefore, you were unable to complete the material once and had to 'redo' it to get the GED. Failing high school is generally taken as being dumb.

I'm not sure how this translates into the stigma against online universities.

The analogy miz made was that online uni's are like GEDs: there is a social stigma attached to them, but in the "real world", getting a job and shit, majority of the time there isn't a difference between those and a "real" diploma.

[Rocl]

I ended up finishing my Bachelor's at University of Michigan Dearborn via online as much as I could. It was more expensive to take online courses but worth it IMO as my work schedule is a crusher.

I looked into University of Phoenix a while back. It seems to be just as expensive as any state college online courses, and the worst part was after requesting info they hound you like an insurance salesman. They called at least once a day, even after I told them to stop calling.

IMO check out a local college's online courses. It's a more reputable degree and shouldn't cost much more, if any.

HOW DID YOU DO THAT AFTER A HOUSE FELL ON YOU

[Meresgi]

Which SUNY school do you go to?

I go to SUNY canton, just enrolled in their new multimedia program, they wont tell me what transferred in from my A.A.S in multimedia, they wont put me in the courses I need, they wont tell me why, my advisor won't communicate with me because it's his "first online advising". I'm calling them up this Monday and asking to speak to the head of admissions to inquire as to what the fuck is going on.

[Meresgi]

I met with a local college counselor about their degree program, and UoP was brought up. Basically he told me, a business treats them equally as far as credibility goes. the real disadvantage of getting your degree online he said, was lack of connections. Going to an actual college and taking classes in person lets you make connections with people, which in turn gives you more possibilities when you go looking for employment. If you have a company just waiting for you to get your degree then that's fine, UoP will be great for you, but if you don't, you're missing out on opportunities.

Yeah I know i'll be missing out, but sadly I live in a shit hole of a town in upstate NY, so going to any college to acquire connections will be hard pressed. I do plan to further go on for my Masters for teaching at a college level in the multimedia and communications field, i'm good friends with a few of my old professors and really good friends with the head of the Multimedia department I got my A.A.S from, granted it was a podunk community college but he came from Syracuse Uni so that's a start.

I know what you mean about the not really learning dick online and having to teach yourself it, which I don't mind. A lot of my online courses have been like that, but the colleges ive done them with have been hacks unable to even communicate with me on a subject matter.

[Furtwangler]

I lived in a shithole of a town in upstate as well. How much is your avg starting income after you graduate for your profession? Is it enough where you can justify 10-30k in loans? can you get scholarships/financial aid from any higher up uni's where your program is reputable?
going to a pricier school may be worth your while just based off the networking/job experience they can offer you if you can stay in the program. That can count way more than the actual degree you get anywhere.

[Sol-Blackguy]

Given there's positions available in whatever field your looking to go into.

[Guitarman]

Given there's positions available in whatever field your looking to go into.

given the fact he's just starting now, like i am, he's going to have plenty of options. It's projected around 72,000 senior executives and like jobs will retire in the next 5-6 years, and only around 42,000 people will be coming in to fill those spots, so competition to soak up good talent should be high. The reason being, the baby boomers will be retiring in the next 5 years or so. I got that from my business book that was updated last year, so unfortunately i can't link those statistics.

[Plow]

If you have to take the time to teach the material to yourself, it's definitely not worth the money.

It's how college works. You have help, but even if you blew through high school without having to study and pick an easy-ass major, if you're not taking the time on your own to actually learn the shit, it's not worth even the money to have the books, let alone pay today's tuition.

Unless of course it's "worth it" to you to blow a bunch of money to be able to get a shitty dead end job you'll never advance from because you got a degree but don't actually know what the hell you're doing.

[Mizango]

It's how college works. You have help, but even if you blew through high school without having to study and pick an easy-ass major, if you're not taking the time on your own to actually learn the shit, it's not worth even the money to have the books, let alone pay today's tuition.

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[BarthelloSylph]

But I mean if you're dropping 90 grand on school then don't let me stand in the way of you fooling yourself.

4 years at UNC =/= 90k. far less.

4 years at dook =/= 90k. far more.

[Meresgi]

I have a good chunk in loans right now, I can probably afford another 10-20k to be able to snag a Masters. What's this though I read on their site that they require you to be currently working in the field to even take part in their Bach in Science degrees? Granted i'm coming in with a degree so I hope that shows them the dedication part. I need to get out my bills for this SUNY i'm going to and figure out how much they are charging me versus going online. If I can land a teaching gig out of college, which probably wont happen, starting pay is pretty decent. But usually they want someone who has been on the job before teaching so i'll have to suffer a few years doing some shit job.

[Darus Grey]

As a SUNY school professor, I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry I couldn't be more help >.>.

[MisterBob]

Where do you work misterbob? I'm going to RIT, for software engineering and I know in this field the school you go to makes a difference, unless you're just a coding prodigy or something. Other fields will obviously vary. For instance Microsoft, among other companies in the field have a list of preferred schools they will send recruiters out to (we're one of them) and I guarantee that gives me at least twice the chance of getting a job there vs someone who went to an online school or community college.
Yea, I pay 38 a year (before aid and scholarships and shit) to go here, but I'm almost guaranteed an edge in future employment because of the schools reputation in some of its programs, and it's excessive internship requirements.

I'm not going to post my employment on a public forum haha, but it's in your field. As an RIT grad you will certainly have a considerable edge, even in the poor economy some friends of mine who went there were all able to secure multiple competitively-paying offers easily.

Just make sure you learn how to interview properly, and always go to the career fairs.