Big Bomb solo

[Wrish]

Thanks for pics, but would like to see video, or more shots @ different percentages to show you didn't receive support, like Shell 4 in particular, and how the last 1/4 went, since battle is all about taking magic damage. You curiously left out the experience obtained!

[BerenTebogo]

lol

[Nicholette]

Great job and finally on topic

[Thorny]

Sarcasm removed due to epic retards.

MDT Set:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/803...8windurstw.jpg
SS Set:
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6...9windurstw.jpg
(Gimp, I know.. hard to find decent MND gear for ninja besides denali..)

I might do a video when I get back to CT and have a pc better than shitty laptop, but that's still sacrificing TH4 on a relatively valuable NM(since it's an absolute joke to 2box thf + brd). I didn't spam screenshots because I was paying attention to the fight and I took a few early on because I assumed that would be sufficient.

Edit: Oh, I got a hellstorm too! Scary shit!
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9...540halvung.jpg

[Fottiti]

I had completely forgotten that katana existed, gives me something to think about.

Just curious as to why you didn't swap in pieces like osode/AF +1 feet/gleeman's cape (assuming you have them) for firaga.

Edit: Don't know why I suggested gleeman's when there is lamian +1.

[BerenTebogo]

go solo suzaku for sune ate +15 mnd!

[Thorny]

I had completely forgotten that katana existed, gives me something to think about.

Just curious as to why you didn't swap in pieces like osode/AF +1 feet/gleeman's cape (assuming you have them) for firaga.

Edit: Don't know why I suggested gleeman's when there is lamian +1.

NIN can't wear gleeman's, i don't own an osode/lamian+1, and i honestly didn't notice nin feet had INT on them because i threw that together while running there Prudence torque is there for that reason, just general laziness not noticing the rest.

@Sath; I intend to sometime, but like 0/4 on nfeet and sune-ate is shitty, too demoralizing to head back for a bit

[Seedz]

/slowclap

[Wrish]

Saw your ninja-edit change of tone. Still, EXP obtained would let us know which level of BB you rolled.

You're right that Shell II -> IV is just <8% MDR difference, barely more than if you had a D.ring, and less than if you had M. ring too.

I'm still surprised Firaga 3 did so little. With a gimp stoneskin set (55+24 mnd, 105+5 skill = 171 HP), 296 + 171 = 467 damage taken. You have 21% MDR plus 21.88% from shell, giving a post-MDB Firaga 3 of only 818 damage. Assuming you didn't have any lamia +1, that's a base damage of only 916. Don't normal lanterns nuke harder than that?

Well, both my decked ninjas are Elvaan and can stoneskin past 250hp, but I'll use Osode and Yasha head to make up for any INT difference, plus both hq lamian pieces for extra mdb. I'm missing both the katana and hands, but with that extra stoneskin I think I'll be at a net advantage. If TP moves don't overwhelm me, those ninjas are known for hitting hard; I'll tape the whole thing w/i 72 hours.

P.S. Nothing wrong with inviting a THF at last moment to tag TH after you've soloed 95%. Certainly less game-changing than buffing Shell 4!

[Thorny]

Saw your ninja-edit change of tone. Still, EXP obtained would let us know which level of BB you rolled.

You're right that Shell II -> IV is just <8% MDR difference, barely more than if you had a D.ring, and less than if you had M. ring too.

I'm still surprised Firaga 3 did so little. With a gimp stoneskin set (55+24 mnd, 105+5 skill = 171 HP), 296 + 171 = 467 damage taken. You have 19% MDR plus 21.88% from shell, giving a post-MDB Firaga 3 of only 790 damage. Assuming you didn't have any lamia +1, that's a base damage of only 885. Don't normal lanterns nuke harder than that?

Uh, corrections: I only had self-cast shell II and protect II. I also have a stone gorget(additional 30 on stoneskin) and 21% MDT(5% katana, 12% mermans, 2% denali, 2% lieutenant's). From my understanding, they get MAB when they grow and standard procedure on plain lanterns is to just WS and let them hit full size. Should also take into account that stoneskin is weakened from blaze spikes, though it's really not a very powerful spell(Firaga).

Well, both my decked ninjas are Elvaan and can stoneskin past 250hp, but I'll use Osode and Yasha head to make up for any INT difference, plus both hq lamian pieces for extra mdb. I'm missing both the katana and hands, but with that extra stoneskin I think I'll be at a net advantage. If TP moves don't overwhelm me, those ninjas are known for hitting hard; I'll tape the whole thing w/i 72 hours.

It's not a competition, my NIN is ABed and has 210 ninjutsu and like 245 katana <_< If I had any reason to make good solo gear for NIN I would, but I have RDM.

P.S. Nothing wrong with inviting a THF at last moment to tag TH after you've soloed 95%. Certainly less game-changing than buffing Shell 4!

I didn't get shell IV like I mentioned before It's more of the fact that I farm it with THF + BRD dualbox and have my own TH4, inconveniences me to get someone to come tag it and they'd expect a cut vs just killing it as I get flasks.

Regardless, off for the day~

[Charismatic]

Well, what version of shell was your buddy casting on you?

[Valena]

One that shelled him from this topic apparently

You realise he did it nin/whm right, so he can cast Shell II on himself, right ?

[Wrish]

Ah, well, didn't know BB nuked THAT badly. Takes some thunder from those RDM accomplishments. So, recalculating:

201 hp stoneskin + 296 log damage = 497 reduced damage.
21% MDR + 14.1% shell II = 35.1% total MDR
12% passive MDB
(497 * 1.12)/(1 - .351) = 858 base damage

And mostly for my personal edification, damage taken on above Elvaan setup with same INT (overly conservative):
858 base damage * (1 - 28.1% MDR) / 1.18 MDB - 267 stoneskin = 256 damage [up to 523 w/o stoneskin]

It's not a competition, my NIN is ABed and has 210 ninjutsu and like 245 katana <_<

That would have been good to know 'cause I was shocked you took a whole 90 minutes lol. I have hit this mob before and it didn't seem plausible to take that long.

[Windfoxster]

Hmmm, a question about farming the smoky flask. Did you guys only kill those 2 on the ramps and wait for repops or did you also kill those 2 in Mythril Mouth Monamaq's room too.

[pchan]

Normal bomb's damage is around 742 damage with no buff since it's 66 INT with 589 base damage spell and 1.5 multiplier, so since they have 1.32 mab, with 82 INT and zero mdb/t you would get

(589+1.5*(66-82))*1.32=745.


1/8 resist should be 93 so fire resists is the best way to go anyway, lolnin, lolrdm or lol thf.

[Charismatic]

One that shelled him from this topic apparently

You realise he did it nin/whm right, so he can cast Shell II on himself, right ?

Nah.

[Dowzer]

Wow, very impressive!

[Spider-Dan]

There is a difference using keyboard..if you want to change your macro palette, you actually do need to wait a a second. This wait bothers me, as I'm sure it does to others as I'd rather not hold down Control or Alt the entire time I'm doing something.

CTRL+ALT+# (or maybe CTRL+SHIFT+#? I forget, I don't use it) takes you directly to macro palette #.

The only major advantage controller has over PC is casting spells from the spell list on people in your alliance (but not in PT). With controller, I can select, say, Paralyna from my magic list and push up on the dpad to get to the person in my alliance I want to cast it on (avatar blinking notwithstanding). If I push up on the keyboard arrow keys (which usually work as menu control), it just moves the camera.

(This is a thinly veiled attempt to get someone to explain how to accomplish this task with keyboard.)

[Shinryuu]

So I logged in (Tav) and Throny was standing at the Moogle too and I checked him and he was on NIN/WHM with some gear randomly thrown together and I was like huh and then he was like don't you recognize my NIN/WHM stoneskin set and I was like no and he was like I soloed Big Bomb so for to trolling BG and man that rocked

[Wrish]

firaga III is easily 1k+ damage from the even match bombs, gl with that.

Normal bomb's damage is around 742 damage with no buff since it's 66 INT with 589 base damage spell and 1.5 multiplier, so since they have 1.32 mab, with 82 INT and zero mdb/t you would get

(589+1.5*(66-82))*1.32=745.

No. Barfire from rdm main doesn't change anything on normal even match bombs. According to magic evasion tests, you need 150 resist to resist half of the spell and 230-240 to totally resist them, which means you start seeing resists at ~100. Now what you suggests is /rdm so much less fire resist than rdm and big bomb which is a NM and has probably higher magic accuracy than NQ bombs even match ...

1/8 resist should be 93 so fire resists is the best way to go anyway, lolnin, lolrdm or lol thf.

Why do I get the feeling not to trust what you say, lol...