Senate Special Election in MA

[Demosthenes11]

the kind of mad where i call the cops cuz conformity threatened me and i was scared shitlist over an internet loser?

right-o

pretty much

[Rhinox]

Idiot, retard, etc no longer apply to you. You're in your own category. No right-winger on this website, or any political thread I've read, has ever advocated any of those things. Learn to read.

Darus Grey is apparently a professor, maybe he teaches English.

Why is Law enforcement and firefighter not in the same category?

[Leif]

Why is Law enforcement and firefighter not in the same category?

Because even though you think conservatives want to abolish the entire federal government, some public institutions are run by the government to the benefit of society and facilitate productive economic growth.

[Plow]

Except health care, like televisions, gasoline, manicures, doctors, nurses, and veterinarians, exists in limited supply.

Supply and demand shape its price and quality. When the government intervenes, by, say requiring everyone to buy health care that does not exist, a shortage will occur. Then, instead of the consumer choosing how much health care they want, the government will do it.



Because it's not relevant to the debate and its only purpose is to stop people from responding to you.


This is like asking the son of a Wal-Mart employee why the stock price is up. They might know, but so might the next random guy on the street.


I want to debate actual ideas and concepts instead of wondering if his ideas might be more credible because someone's mom works in a hospice. Under universal health care, she will be taking her orders just like she does now. She's not exactly in any better of a place to comment on how much care will be going in or out of the system.

She's the CEO of a company that makes their finance software now. For most of the time, she's been the CFO of specific Hospices.

I assure you, she's more well informed than you could ever imagine about how much health care will go in and out under various systems.


But that's not the point of the "death panel" statements at all. End of life planning is extremely important, anyone that's been involved in this, especially someone that's worked extensively in the finance as well as extremely closely with the home health care specialists, can tell you just how important it is.

Palin attempted to turn that into the government deciding who lives and who dies.

The uninformed mass of retards like yourself fell head over heels for it.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Why is Law enforcement and firefighter not in the same category?

"Please tell me why firefighters and police should be free market." No right-winger on this board has made that argument.

"Please tell me why taxation is bad." No right-winger on this board has said, "Taxation is bad."

[Ronfar]

I did what you did and pulled some random shit out of my ass and argued it as a conservative bias. Look, it worked, I got all these responses by playing ignorant and just barreling my own brand of logic down your throats.

I have to give it to you Leif, your tactic is effective as hell.

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Thats what I see.

[Plow]

you trust the government with your safety but not your health? makes perfect sense

[Rhinox]

"Please tell me why firefighters and police should be free market." No right-winger on this board has made that argument.

"Please tell me why taxation is bad." No right-winger on this board has said, "Taxation is bad."

Thats horseshit swampy. If I really cared enough I could pull quotes from multiple threads where you claim Taxation is illegal yada yada yada

but you still haven't answered my question. Why isn't free market Firefighters and law enforcement viable.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

you trust the government with your safety but not your health? makes perfect sense

Yes I do. State and federal governments are the exact same thing, there are no differences between the to. And you know what, your post is exactly what I said in my post.

[Leif]

She's the CEO of a company that makes their finance software now. For most of the time, she's been the CFO of specific Hospices.

I assure you, she's more well informed than you could ever imagine about how much health care will go in and out under various systems.


But that's not the point of the "death panel" statements at all. End of life planning is extremely important, anyone that's been involved in this, especially someone that's worked extensively in the finance as well as extremely closely with the home health care specialists, can tell you just how important it is.

Palin attempted to turn that into the government deciding who lives and who dies.

That's the problem. You seem to think its so important, people shouldn't be able to choose if they want it or not.

The fact is, the only way to get the MOST GOODS of the HIGHEST QUALITY to the MOST PEOPLE is through the FREE MARKET.

If you don't allow that to happen, rationing occurs.

[Rhinox]

you trust the government with your safety but not your health? makes perfect sense

This is what I'm trying to grasp my head around.

[Leif]

you trust the government with your safety but not your health? makes perfect sense

If we let the free market operate with the police and firefighters and road builders, we would have a much more efficient allocation of resources.

Big shocker there.

I'm willing to let the government worry about my streets. I'm not willing to let them manage my health care.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Thats horseshit swampy. If I really cared enough I could pull quotes from multiple threads where you claim Taxation is illegal yada yada yada

but you still haven't answered my question. Why isn't free market Firefighters and law enforcement viable.

I've never said taxation was illegal. I've said the income tax was un-constitutional prior to the 16th(?) amendment unless it was tied to population. And no right-winger on this site has advocated for 0 taxation.

Why is or why isn't?

[Rhinox]

"Please tell me why firefighters and police should be free market." No right-winger on this board has made that argument.

"Please tell me why taxation is bad." No right-winger on this board has said, "Taxation is bad."

If we let the free market operate with the police and firefighters and road builders, we would have a much more efficient allocation of resources.

Big shocker there.

I'm willing to let the government worry about my streets. I'm not willing to let them manage my health care.

lol

[Rhinox]

I've never said taxation was illegal. I've said the income tax was un-constitutional prior to the 16th(?) amendment unless it was tied to population. And no right-winger on this site has advocated for 0 taxation.

Why is or why isn't?

Why isn't it viable in your opinion.

[Cratylus]

Are you paying higher taxes for firefighters and police, or is budgeted from taxes you already pay? When you are helped by firefighters or police officers, do you pay them or are you billed?

Taxation is a way of life, it is how communities pool money to survive. You're a moron for putting this into a "charity vs. profit" scenario as it is clearly not the context.

My apologies to the thread, I just read your other responses in this thread and I realize I am wasting my and the other posters time. Enjoy your solipsism.

Cuiusvis hominis est errare, nullius nisi insipientis in errore perseverare.
-Cicero

[Leif]

lol

Except I didn't say it would be better.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Idiot, retard, etc no longer apply to you. You're in your own category. No right-winger on this website, or any political thread I've read, has ever advocated any of those things. Learn to read.

Darus Grey is apparently a professor, maybe he teaches English.

Well, you're saying that the federal government and your tax dollars being used to protect, support, or defend someones well-being is theft and socialism and unconstitutional, right?

So you're against tax dollars being used for healthcare, which would protect, support, or defend someones well-being. Hence your argument is that healthcare should be regulated by the free market.

Following this line of logic since firefighters and police use tax dollars to protect, support, or defend our well-being that this is theft and socialism and unconstitutional, right?


Did I miss something, or did you make up your own rules and these are exceptions to those rules?

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

My apologies to the thread, I just read your other responses in this thread and I realize I am wasting my and the other posters time. Enjoy your solipsism.

Cuiusvis hominis est errare, nullius nisi insipientis in errore perseverare.
-Cicero

Figured you'd cop out, at least you acknowledge my intellectual superiority. Thanks!

[Rhinox]

Except I didn't say it would be better.

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