Senate Special Election in MA

[Olo401]

Then just say that.

[jmc]

what I find amusing, is coakley was "supposed" to win in a landslide when the final 2 canidates were decided. (around the point of 80% estimated to vote for coakley)

but, shes a idiot and it is now estimated scott brown has a small lead (about 4%) and simply because he seems like a real peoples person. His ads don't lie about traveling the state, i've seen him tons of times all around the city talking to people.

Compared to coakley who was asked a few weeks by a reporter if she was going to do any "political handshaking" she gave a smug look and said "What? Standing at fenway in the cold?" and walked away....... then disappears for a few weeks, and only reappearing to meet people a few days ago. So fuck her


In the end, I voted independent lol

[Olo401]

I have to agree there.. Coakley could have won this easily if she had actually campaigned from the start like she actually wanted the job. Instead she was complacent and lazy.

[Acturus]

Oh no, the fate of a flawed health care bill is on the line. I wait with bated breath.

Ironically enough, the battleground is the state that was the first to pass significant healthcare reformation, supposedly viewed as a model for what could happen to the nation at large.

[Olo401]

It has more to do with the fact that Coakley ran a fucking awful campaign, especially for someone who already holds statewide office. Brown has also run a really good fundamentals campaign, that was combined with momentum from the whole health care mess and lack of action to fix the economy. And because of those overriding national issues, Obama's visit to the state to pitch for Coakley is nullified.

And then there's the local sports star power.. Brown has had Curt Schilling "pitching" for him since the beginning, and in recent days Doug Flutie has jumped on board. I'm sure that had an effect on the "Sox & Pats Man" demographic..

[Acturus]

Is Brown a legitimate contender, or is just the lucky guy who gets to run on an anti-democrat campaign?

Will he be a force in office at all?

[Leif]

The election is mostly about health care.

Massachusetts voters got national health care. Their prices skyrocketed and now they hate it.

Scott Brown gently says the same thing by only pointing out that a large majority of their population is now covered and they don't need it. However, the bigger picture is that they don't want to have to pay more for less.

Thus, more people vote against Coakley, who has acted as if she is entitled to this seat the whole race.

Will he be a force in office at all?

At best, he is a John McCain/Lindsey Graham Republican. At worse, he'll be defecting to the Democrats in four years if he tries for another term.

[jmc]

Is Brown a legitimate contender, or is just the lucky guy who gets to run on an anti-democrat campaign?

Will he be a force in office at all?

He is a good contender for the job


(probably helps his popularity from his daughters american idol run though)


*edit*

He would be a force, because unlike alot of senators he doesn't seem to skip on on votes........ and would be the 41st vote.......huge seat for him.

[willriker]

mass will go to democrats. it has always gone to democrats. our forefathers have fought, and died, so that mass will be a sure thing for deomocrats/kennedy's.

~daily show

oh wait... shit

[ZarakiKujata]

(probably helps his popularity having been nude beefcake)

ftfy

And whether or not he would be a forceful senator is interesting imo since he stands almost no shot of being re-elected as I'm sure he would get knocked out of a primary against a real dem especially if he votes republican likewise if he votes republican and runs again as a GOP man he would get thrown out of office so fast especially if Obama ends up being a one term wonder and the democrats grow some balls and run a progressive presidential candidate in 2016.

[Olo401]

Is Brown a legitimate contender, or is just the lucky guy who gets to run on an anti-democrat campaign?

Will he be a force in office at all?

He'll be a brick in the Senate Republican wall, nothing more. More significant is that he'll become the scapegoat for a Congress that will be prevented from taking any meaningful legislative action to do.. well.. anything. If they're smart enough and get ahead of the race this November, the Democrats can use this to their advantage..

[Demosthenes11]

He'll be a brick in the Senate Republican wall, nothing more. More significant is that he'll become the scapegoat for a Congress that will be prevented from taking any meaningful legislative action to do.. well.. anything. If they're smart enough and get ahead of the race this November, the Democrats can use this to their advantage..

dear god would you stop acting like the democrats have done anything with their supermajority lol

this bullshit isn't in the least important. honestly id liken you to vajra ranting about SWINE FLU GONNA KILL YALL

[Olo401]

dear god would you stop acting like the democrats have done anything with their supermajority lol

If you think they haven't, you should probably take a look at this page and get back to us because somewhere along the line you weren't paying attention.

Also, the last time I'm gonna say it.. I'm tryin' really hard here to check myself the least you can do is the same.

Only one request.. let's try to keep this one thread civil, at least for today.

[Bingbong]

Seriously, Dems run the house, the senate, and the executive branch. There's nothing in their way to do whatever democratic thing they want to, and yet...

Guantanamo still open.
Troops in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
No major "Green Energy" initiative passed.
Transparency in Government... not so much.
Still no National health care.
A stimulus that was hardly stimulating

Without a whole lot of double-speak here, what did Democrats do with their lock-down on legislation in 2009 that makes them deserving of continued support?

Brown even being close in this race is a huge referendum on Obama-care, and the anger with incumbents nation wide.

I just don't think Brown can pull it out though, 51% of the population is independent or un-enrolled. The other 49% break in a 3 to 1 for dems. In a simple numbers game, it never looks good for a Republican here. Even one as centrist as Brown.

[Suited Aces]

Brown can't win. I'm pretty sure the Republican party was declared dead after Obama's nomination.

[Acturus]

Brown can't win. I'm pretty sure the Republican party was declared dead after Obama's nomination.

Why can't Brown win? "Lesser of Two Evils" has been the primary way to vote since 2000.

[Olo401]

Why can't Brown win? "Lesser of Two Evils" has been the primary way to vote since 2000.

Well by that logic...

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I'll leave that one alone.

[Acturus]

Well by that logic...

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I'll leave that one alone.

No don't. I'm not following.

[Olo401]

No don't. I'm not following.

Let's just say that "lesser of two evils" is a subjective term and leave it at that.

[Acturus]

Let's just say that "lesser of two evils" is a subjective term and leave it at that.

Well yeah, but if everyone votes for the lesser of two evils, then the person elected is the most popular lesser of two evils.

It works. I guess.