Gunsights' biblical references concern US and UK forces

[Ksandra]

I'd like to point out too by family I mean the ones living in Egypt btw. Not like sitting in the living room discussing politics type shit, I mean what they see on their TVs and hear in the streets type shit.

[zoobernut]

Yeah I assumed you were talking about family over there. I don't think it effects my point though much, unless your family consists of insurgents actively fighting in the war against the U.S. then they might have good insight into whether or not it pisses the extremists off.

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I was being sarcastic there.

[Ksandra]

There is extremists all over the country. The average citizen there already consider it a holy war, which was my point in the first place, you don't need to be an insuragnce to know what's being plastered all over a country.


BTW You keep acting like I'm saying to keep it on the gunsights....I'm saying this really won't effect much, because they already consider it a holy war. If they want to change it, I don't care, but it's not something to panic/flip over.

[pohibaba]

If these were on citizen issued sights and scopes only then I wouldn't give a fuck and would fight to defend their right to do it. This isn't the case though. This religious reference, and any religious reference, shouldn't be on any government issued item that we require people to carry. It's wrong from a constitutional stand point and it's wrong because even if there's just the slight chance that one of our soldiers may be harmed or killed over something like this then it's entirely inappropriate.

[zoobernut]

BTW You keep acting like I'm saying to keep it on the gunsights....I'm saying this really won't effect much, because they already consider it a holy war. If they want to change it, I don't care, but it's not something to panic/flip over.

That isn't what I am acting like at all. I am acting like your original statement of "it won't matter" is hasty. I also agree with you it isn't something worth panicking/flipping over which I stated in my last post.

I still think soldiers have a right to be concerned about it, (not panic) and I also think in the sense that it *might* *potentially* have a negative effect even if it is small that it might as well be removed.

I also believe that while the company making the sites has a right to be as religious as they want the fact is that the military has to be an institution that is welcoming and conducive to any religion just like the rest of our country with respect to the government and this undermines it slightly.

[Ksandra]

this makes little to no difference.

so I doubt it will change much.

I was commenting on how people shouldn't flip their shit over it.

.I'm saying this really won't effect much,

I am acting like your original statement of "it won't matter" is hasty.

wut? you might wanna review what it means to say "little difference" and "much". as it seems your vocab is being defective.

[Jakson]

So are the sight makers damned if they remove the text and damned (financially) if they don't?

[zoobernut]

Now you are getting into semantics. I am sorry I did not quote you directly. I don't really see where your argument is anymore since I already agreed with you twice in previous posts that it is not such a big deal that people should "flip their shit" or over react.

[Korietsu]

Almost all of the major Optics companies that supply to the military have been doing this for years. While it's not right to put it on there, it really doesn't matter. Trijicon has been making optics for shooters for years, and quite frankly, many of the soldiers are glad to have them, regardless of any markings on them.

Hell, you can even see custom markings similar to the ones on the Trijicon ACOG optics in COD:MW2 ffs.

[willriker]

Coded references to biblical passages are inscribed on gunsights widely used by the US and British military in Iraq and Afghanistan, it has emerged.

The markings include "2COR4:6" and "JN8:12", relating to verses in the books of Corinthians II and John.

Anyone else get a kick out of this being termed as a coded message?

[Mojo]

Nobody can say that it "wouldn't make a difference either way." Why not stop engraving them with retarded religious shit to avoid potential problems.

[BRP]

This is outrageous. When I am killing an individual I don't want to be reminded that there is a chance something more than sweet oblivion awaits them.

[Mizango]

This is outrageous. When I am killing an individual I don't want to be reminded that there is a chance something more than sweet oblivion awaits them.

looooool

[Jakson]

Trijicon is just reminding them that their respawn point is in heaven.

[Shibo]

It wouldn't do any harm to not have them there but it potentially could do harm having them there so why not take the safer rout?

This was from the article:

"As long as we have men and women in danger, we will continue to do everything we can to provide them with both state-of-the-art technology and the never-ending support and prayers of a grateful nation,"

Religious individuals tend to see "benefits" in these things as their entire foundation is founded around the emotional solace. So even though what you said is completely sense full and logical, they may not see it from the same perspective.