Lost: The Final Season (thread is extra spoilery, click at own risk)

[Vinto]

nvm, missed a reply

[GRT]

The Ajira plane flying over and then the wreckage shots seem to be confusing a lot of people. Poor choice on their part maybe but it really was a nice touch. I still remember sitting down to watch the pilot episode so long ago.

It was jsut the wreckage shots, the plane flying over head by itself should've tipped me off, cuz Jack smiled as he saw it, happy that his friends got to leave the island without any trouble.

Or I could have read the last 10 pages or so as I just did, and I wouldn't have made a fool out of myself. It's just I was raging so hard lol

[Darkyrm]

Oh I read it wrong, my bad.

No one died in the plane crash, aside from the few who died in the Pilot, and Hurley did become the leader of the island with Ben as his #2. Christian saying that many of them died at different times and Hurley/Ben talking about their time protecting the island makes that pretty clear(or I though it did).

I guess you could interpret the sideways world as purgatory if you want but I saw it differently. I saw it as a place created by their collective consciousness so that they could find each other again after death and then move on when they are ready.

This is it, I found the finale really really emotive and an alright way to sort everything, thinking a bit about the episode now I found that a bit of hidden drama (didnt think too much about it till now) is how Desmond was thiking he could go to the alternate reality (which is not, its limbus/place where they come together again) but found that switching off the light didnt take him anywhere

Really, really liked how Jack said to Desmond "See you in another life Brother" coming full circle from the day they met at the stadium.

[Masenko]

I'm super pissed off they went with the Chronicles of Narnia ending for the "sideways" stuff and just chopped off the Island plot line with the death of Jack.

[Stee]

I have a feeling the dude who played Charles Widmore required no acting at all.

[NotGreyheim]

For those who still don't understand that the island != hell/purgatory, here's my take on the finale/series as a whole:

Spoiler: show

Everything between the pilot and the last season happened just as it appeared to. People who survived the crash were alive, people who later died were dead.

Fast-forward to the final season of the show when we start to experience the "Flash-Sideways". Initially it appeared that these were events as they would have unfolded had the island been destroyed in the '70s.

Fast-forward once again to the series finale. We see Desmond gathering people in the "alternate timeline" for some unknown purpose. On the island, Jack volunteers to be Jacob's successor as protector of the island. He fights Smoke Locke, is mortally wounded but manages to put the island's tampon back in before collapsing in the spot where he first woke up after the crash in the very first episode. Hurley takes over as protector of the island, and asks Ben to help him. Some unknown period of time later, Hurley and Ben die (we never see this part).

Back in the alternate timeline, Desmond and Hurley succeed in gathering most of the original castaways (and Penny) in the church where Jack was planning to have his father's funeral. When Jack is alone with the (empty) coffin, in walks Christian Shephard. He explains to Jack that the "alternate timeline" in which he is living, is actually sort of a "truck stop" on the road to the afterlife that everyone on the island helped to create over the course of their lives so that they can go there together.

I'm still not quite positive on why people who weren't in the church "weren't ready", with the exceptions of Michael (did bad things, ghost stuck on the island forever), Walt (wasn't on the island very long, presumably lived the rest of his life normally off-island) and Miles (same as Walt).

heavy HEAVY spoilers

[GRT]

So like, what exactly did the nuke do?

[Masenko]

It canceled the time-traveling stuff. That's it.

[Eticket]

I have to watch it again but I thought the wreckage at the end was just production shots to show that the show had come full circle and ended where it began. It was just symbolic.

This.

I just got done telling this to a family member who was convinced it was the Ajira flight.

Overall, that was a great finale.

[Yangsing]

So Desmond is stuck on the island again?

[NotGreyheim]

So Desmond is stuck on the island again?

It was implied that Hurley was going to send him back to Penny and Charlie somehow

[GRT]

It canceled the time-traveling stuff. That's it.

I thought the time-traveling already stopped after Locke moved the wheel.

Remember the season opening? They showed the island at the bottom of the ocean. I think people didn't have a problem of the Lost crew still being on the island because they thought "part" of them left, and the other "part" of them stayed.

So now it seems like the nuke just threw everyone back to the present, and the sideway world had nothing to do with the nuke. This makes that bottom of the ocean sequences nothing but a way to throw off the audience. Kinda cheap if you ask me.

Also they never explained the four-toed statue. =\

[Masenko]

The actual traveling through time stopped with the wheel. The time traveling plotline stopped with the nuke.

[NotGreyheim]

I believe what the bomb did was put them back in their own time, as before it went off they were still in the 1970's.

[Baelorn]

I think I am going to do a write up for all my friends and family who are confused lol. If I do I'll post it here but for now I am going to bed.

[GRT]

I believe what the bomb did was put them back in their own time, as before it went off they were still in the 1970's.

So what happened to the "past" after the nuke went off? Different timelines? Alternative universes? Bacon?

[NotGreyheim]

I think I am going to do a write up for all my friends and family who are confused lol. If I do I'll post it here but for now I am going to bed.

Feel free to use the one I wrote a couple posts up, unless it's lacking anything Also, goodnight!

[Eticket]

So what happened to the "past?" Different timelines? Alternative universes? Bacon?

What past? They left. Everything else continued as normal. Ben still purged Dharma etc.

[GRT]

What past? They left. Everything else continued as normal. Ben still purged Dharma etc.

But it was a nuke that blew up the heart of the island...

[NotGreyheim]

So what happened to the "past" after the nuke went off? Different timelines? Alternative universes? Bacon?

This (to me at least) is where things become more... complicated. The bomb going off in the 1970's would actually mean that Swan Hatch was never built, meaning flight 815 wouldn't have gone down, and the castaways would have never ended up on the island.

However, as they were still on the island when they were sent back to the future, I'm lead to believe either the plane went down for some other unknown reason, or an alternate timeline was in fact created (possibly one that we never actually see) in which flight 815 landed safely, explaining why Jack and co. were still on the island in the current timeline.

Headache inducing, to say the least.