Need help with my game.

[Gryffes]

Pimpslap her to take her mind off the backpain.
She wont be complaining about it again.

Also I fully agree with her decision not to leave the kitchen to visit the doctors office.

[Pirian]

Pimpslap her to take her mind off the backpain.
She wont be complaining about it again.

Also I fully agree with her decision not to leave the kitchen to visit the doctors office.

Welcome to the thread. They broke up.

[Ksandra]

That sucks Aristio

[Kilhart]

Welcome to the thread. They broke up.

This does not preclude the option of pimpslapping her.

[Pirian]

This does not preclude the option of pimpslapping her.

Touche!

[kuronosan]

You mean the science that backed up what I was saying from the start? Jesus fucking Christ, kid, you're not winning this argument.

Since you need to be walked through this:

4 grams per day is the current maximum short-term dosage for Tylenol, though the only studies showing safety at this dose focused on signs of overt damage to the liver. That recent small study showed elevated transaminases in several patients taking 1 gram four times daily, so an FDA panel last year recommended that the maximum dose be lowered to 2.6 grams per day (AKA, 8 normal-strength Tylenol pills) and recommended that Vicodin, Percocet, and several other narcotics be taken off the market because they contain too much acetaminophen to stay under this new maximum dosage.

The FDA has not taken these final steps, but almost certainly will soon. The reason they chose 2.6 grams is that similar studies have been performed on this dosage, and showed no signs of liver damage as far as two years out.

In other words, I am right and you are an idiot who didn't even read the "science" you confronted me with.

EDIT: Also, what I posted earlier was in reference to the medical definition of "addiction," not "dependence."

Source: American Heritage Medical Dictionary
ad·dic·tion (ə-dĭkˈshən)
noun Habitual psychological or physiological dependence on a substance or practice beyond one's voluntary control.

You do not necessarily have to be dependent because of dopamine stimulation. Placebo effect, which can be a strong dopamine stimulator, can contribute to psychological dependence on Tylenol.

Also, use of any narcotic plays havoc on the liver because the liver has to filter it first. Prescription medication is actually measured not by the dosage you take, but by the actual amount that passes through your liver into your bloodstream. That 4g of medicine you're taking? It's probably closer to 6 or 7g.

Next, Alanine-aminotransferase (ALT) is an enzyme indicative of damaged hepatic cells. This means that if ALT is released when people take 4g or more of Tylenol, you are killing your liver. Given that your liver is going to regenerate anyway, killing a few cells every now and then probably won't give you cirrhosis.

That's if Tylenol was the only thing you were putting in your system. It does not take into account drinking habits or other medications. It's the same reason you don't take too much aspirin (you could cause hemorrhaging if you take it regularly enough). Putting too much stress on your liver over time (who gives a fuck about two years compared to ten or more) can cause acute or chronic hepatitis, or even hepatic failure.

Now, you are correct that in the short-term, low, repeated doses of Tylenol probably will not harm you. As a matter of fact, 2.6g (2600mg, or about 65% of the current maximum dosage) is perfect as it causes next to no significant problems on your hepatic cells.

Both of you are arguing against a wall. I don't see what the argument is. Weeks is correct about dosage, but it's not like Finesse is any less correct about a physical dependence being created from a psychological dependence on a substance.

In short, yes you can get addicted to Tylenol, whether it activates your brain's reward centers or not (because even if it is a non-opioid drug, other things can activate your dopamine, dipshit).

[Ruiner]

Sure, you can get "addicted" to Tylenol, the same way you can also get "addicted" to sex, exercise, and reality TV shows. Which is why it's bullshit to say the Tylenol is addicting, because there is nothing inherent in the drug itself that causes a physical dependence. If you want to declare that taking Tylenol is potentially addictive, then you damn well better mention that, oh yeah, so is just about every other human behavior that reduces stress/causes pleasure/eases pain.

[archibaldcrane]

Placebo effect, which can be a strong dopamine stimulator, can contribute to psychological dependence on Tylenol.

This just in, sugar pills are addictive!

When you say "everything can be addictive" which is exactly what you're saying, the word "addictive" has no meaning. It's not a meaningful use of the English language, much less useful in medicine.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Sure, you can get "addicted" to Tylenol, the same way you can also get "addicted" to sex, exercise, and reality TV shows. Which is why it's bullshit to say the Tylenol is addicting, because there is nothing inherent in the drug itself that causes a physical dependence. If you want to declare that taking Tylenol is potentially addictive, then you damn well better mention that, oh yeah, so is just about every other human behavior that reduces stress/causes pleasure/eases pain.

Context motherfucker, do you speak it? Given the context that the girl refused to see a doctor and "take tylenol it'll help" was offered as a solution, the obvious outcome is a high probability of dependence on the drug for the ailment and any future ailment, on top of excessive use as the bodies tolerance to the drug increases over time.

You need to start at page one next time ya fuckin chump, or put on some arm floaties before you go cannonballing right into the deep end of the pool. This way you won't drown so fast like frick and frack over here.


@kuronsan - ty, sir

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

This just in, sugar pills are addictive!

When you say "everything can be addictive" which is exactly what you're saying, the word "addictive" has no meaning. It's not a meaningful use of the English language, much less useful in medicine.

Look at this nignog hanging on to his last thread of hope in an attempt to

[archibaldcrane]

I have come up with a short list of things to try.

*Exercise daily, focusing on ab workouts. Never doing anything that causes pain.

*Use over the counter pain pills, such as Aleve or Tylonel, to calm down inflamed muscles, but do not over medicate.

*Rest in bed if the pain is too severe.

It's right there in the first post champ. OP has it covered.

[Ruiner]

Context motherfucker, do you speak it? Given the context that the girl refused to see a doctor and "take tylenol it'll help" was offered as a solution, the obvious outcome is a high probability of dependence on the drug for the ailment and any future ailment, on top of excessive use as the bodies tolerance to the drug increases over time.

There's no high probability for dependence on the drug if the drug does not cause physical dependence. As said I said before, the likelihood for her to become psychologically addicted to the drug has everything to do with the individual and nothing to do with Tylenol.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

It's right there in the first post champ. OP has it covered.

No one has the intention of medicating numbnuts. But obvious me saying that taking it in the long term, the body building tolerance, and over time accidentally overmedicating is a conceptual wall that's too high for you to climb.

[archibaldcrane]

She does not wish to see a doctor, but is willing to try at-home techniques to try and get rid of the pain. If the problem persists though, I will force her to the doctor's office.

Really dude? Again, OP had it covered.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

There's no high probability for dependence on the drug if the drug does not cause physical dependence. As said I said before, the likelihood for her to become psychologically addicted to the drug has everything to do with the individual and nothing to do with Tylenol.

You would to well to take my advice, I never said once Tylenol was addictive. And the chance to become addicted doesn't happen to just "addictive personalities".

Stop watching Dr. Phil and read a book for christs sake.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Really dude? Again, OP had it covered.

Force her to the doctors? lol? That's covered? Negro you are in some serious overdrive to after being proven wrong that you can, in fact, become addicted to Tylenol.

Any more straw men?

[archibaldcrane]

You would to well to take my advice, I never said once Tylenol was addictive.

Yeah, I'm out. Not biting on this.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Yeah, I'm out. Not biting on this.

Yeah, because your reading perception can't determine the difference between becoming addicted to Tylenol and Tylenol being addictive in and of itself.

You should have run away two pages ago, but I guess it's better to cut your losses now than never.

[Cleverness]

To the OP, also watch this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66z9BZTNxpY

Bitches love Red Lobster, and also don't go out with prostitutes.

[kuronosan]

This just in, sugar pills are addictive!

When you say "everything can be addictive" which is exactly what you're saying, the word "addictive" has no meaning. It's not a meaningful use of the English language, much less useful in medicine.

You're such a laughable fucking idiot sometimes I can't help myself. I didn't say Tylenol was addictive, nor did I say that everything can be addictive. Developing an addiction is not the same thing as something having inherently addictive properties.

Your lack of understanding of medicine in general is preventing you from being a halfway-intelligent human being in the subject. Just shut up and go argue something else.

And yes, you can develop a psychological addiction to anything. Even sugar pills, which, while they are not inherently addictive can give you a sense of ease if you make a psychological connection between "pill I think is doing something" and "hey I do feel better it was all in my head".

There's a reason shrinks and physicians prescribe bullshit medications to hypochondriacs on a regular basis and it has nothing to do with the addictive properties and everything to do with the person's easily satiated stupidity.

Next, video games are not addictive by your definition of the word since they are not a drug that activates your reward center in your brain.

But, since you are going to tell me that they do in fact activate the dopamine receptors in your brain by a process that goes through the amygdala (and subsequently, setting off a cascade which releases dopamine due to emotional satiation) then you are not only agreeing with everything I have said, you are also admitting what a fucking moron you are for mocking it with your retarded "lol sugar pills are addictive" statement.