A Scholar Question!

[Marist]

Im not sure but it seems with no magic crit gear, im getting crits with my spells very rarely. I heard with no crit gear proc rate is 0, but i heard with weather i can get crits. i always nuke with weather, so im wondering if a magic crit build on sch will be more useful then with a blm and no weather. Anyone know?! Also i know its not just a non resist, or just day/weather proc'ing since i use obi's. For example on like HNM's like SW Guivre, I would hit like 1400 non resists, then get a 1800 out of no where, non MB. Im sorry if this is a nub question! D:

[Thorny]

You can't magic crit without magic crit gear. Either you're missing a factor(it seems you know how weather/day/obis work) or not taking into account the elemental magic nerf on HNMs. If other people nuke around the same time you do, you get a decent sized reduction in damage compared to nuking with 15 seconds before you of no nukes. Also, probably belongs in random question thread not a new thread.

[Marist]

Yeah, i guess it does belong there. x.x, also when it does happen it its usually just me nuking, im not sure what else would cause random big leaps in damage.

[Spekkio]

were you using storm spells? i believe that if the weather occurs with a single power naturally and you're using the same storm spell, it counts as double weather which will give a much better proc on your nuke or perhaps a debuff was stuck on it at the time like burn that resulted in a better dint. just hypothesizing here, but it is impossible as was stated above to crit without mcrit gear.

[Marist]

Yeah i always use storm spells, thats why im finding it so odd, i could just be missing something, but i look to see if maybe weather in zone changed/day changed. its just random big hits i cant explain.

[Missnasty]

Where is the data that supports that idea that it's impossible to do a magic crit without magic crit+ gear? >_>a

[Valena]

Well, 8 years of not seeing any irregularity in any unresisted nuke, at any time, might be sufficient sample enough.

Edit : Unless i'm being whooshed, of course

[Neoscrilla]

Where is the data that supports that idea that it's impossible to do a magic crit without magic crit+ gear? >_>a

^ This

[Nevex]

Don't need data when it's so extremely easy to observe.

Pretty much any player who's been playing any nuking job for years will agree that you can't magic crit. without magic crit. gear.

[Xyle]

Pretty sure that it's always been assumed that Magic Crit = 0% with no gear that augments it.

Better way to put it I guess is there's no data to prove otherwise.

[Neoscrilla]

Don't need data when it's so extremely easy to observe.

Pretty much any player who's been playing any nuking job for years will agree that you can't magic crit. without magic crit. gear.

This is true, lol. I am a career BLM, I just wish there was some hard data to support this to the people who may not have been mages for as long.

[kmexe]

If i recall correctly SE stated in an interview that Magical Crit started with base percent of 0.

[Narse]

How god damned retarded are you people? What evidence is there that your character will not randomly die for no discernible reason while riding an airship?

Asking for evidence that magic crit rate base % is 0 is like asking the above question. There is no evidence other than it does not happen. Technically I could randomly fall over while riding an airship with 0 HP for no reason, but it's never happened to me, or any other person in the history of this game. By that token, no person in the history of this game has ever had a magic crit without some kind of equipment or effect to give it to them. Asking for evidence that it can't happen is retarded.

Concerning the OP's question, you're not getting critical hits on your magic. You're either having a reverse weather proc (casting Thunder IV with an obi on with thunder weather for SCH up, but doing it on Earth day/Earth weather can net you a pretty big variance on your spells), or your Spellcast/macro is not completely triggering and you're nuking with certain gear swaps being left out. This happens to me on occasion with my BLM spellcast, and if you're not using windower based macros, if you hit two macros in quick succession, and the first one has a gear swap, it may not finish processing all of the gear swaps, even if there is no /wait in the macro.

[Guppy]

Well, 8 years of not seeing any irregularity in any unresisted nuke, at any time, might be sufficient sample enough.

Unless SE decided recently to ninja in a change in the basic M.Crit mechanism for some odd reason, or add hidden +M.Crit to a piece of gear he's wearing. Somehow I really can't imagine them being quite that generous to BLM though.

Right now Narse's explanation of gearswaps not being processed correctly sounds like a pretty good explanation, although we'd have to know more about Marist's individual setup to be able to say if that situation is possible in this case.

[Jericho]

Not like magic crits matter for SCH when all you get asked to do is AoE buff. Those bastards.

[Sylvrdragon]

It is a fallacy to demand proof of a negative.

[takito09]

Don't need data when it's so extremely easy to observe.

Pretty much any player who's been playing any nuking job for years will agree that you can't magic crit. without magic crit. gear.

There is also extremely easy to find THE QUESTIONS TOPIC also but this guy cant even find this or it's an atention whore anyways <.<