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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hex View Post
    This wouldn't be the first time a good amount of their LS bank was stolen by someone. The more I thought about it, the more I'd have to go with there's a good chance someone ripped the bank off and got the account banned. Just by talking to a few members of this LS, they think this is a very plausible scenario also.

    While in the long run it sucks to lose what you lost, there's reasons why you can't have so many ppl handling important things. If you only had 2-3 people max handling this you'd be able to easily narrow down what went wrong. With the number of people who had access it's easier to avoid any blame and get caught if something fishy did go on.
    December was a huge payout month and it's more likely
    some jackass decided to be cute and report our bank just out of spite. It was probably my speed belt that raised a red flag. There isn't a single person in BBQ that would ever accuse Emmaliz (our banker) of doing such a malicious act so get your facts
    straight before badmouthing any of our senior leaders.

  2. #62
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    Not sure where else to ask this, but anyone know anyone that got LM-11'd lately today or yesterday? know 5 people so far, none of which bot, but they all have wireless and were suspended for "Irregular data sent to the server" when they asked the webchat, the agent said that there were many people getting suspended for this the past few days but he was unsure why. I know of someone that was banned a couple years ago because his connection was such shit that gm's thought he was fleetooling, but havent heard of that happening in a while.

    edit: apparently the autojailer got one of the people because he was afk in whitegate on thf for 9hrs and suddenly came back and hit flee to run to runic and this attracted the autojailer according to our gm..

  3. #63
    Smells like Onions
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    LS banks exist for 3 reasons,
    1. To Rip people off.
    2. To fake being stolen and rip people off.
    3. To magically disappear and rip people off.
    100% of all the LS banks I have EVER been evolved with over the last 5 years have all in one way or another been mishandled, misused or bank+ persons completely gone missing. For new players I highly recommend becoming involved with groups and events where you see immediate pay outs to the people. Not funnelling time/gil effort onto a stranger’s mule, and THINK "Yeah I know this person they are trust worthy". We all damn know how much time this game takes to accomplish tasks. Why take chances….hoping in months/years down the road that when you quit the LS, or when it disbands, they will remember you fondly. That’s like hoping on the lottery.

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzer View Post
    December was a huge payout month and it's more likely
    some jackass decided to be cute and report our bank just out of spite. It was probably my speed belt that raised a red flag. There isn't a single person in BBQ that would ever accuse Emmaliz (our banker) of doing such a malicious act so get your facts
    straight before badmouthing any of our senior leaders.
    I can name 2 people I talk too from BBQ who bad mouth Emma and have called her out on waiting for a good time to screw over the LS. So maybe you should get your facts straight.

    Again I can bet you any amount of money our mule was GM'd numerous times over the years by idiots and the mule was attached to my account. Never once got in any sort of trouble and our items and gil in bank at times more than double/tripled what you had and that's just gil not the dozens of items we had duplicates of. Look around, no other LS has this problem and yours randomly does with quite frankly a weak bank. Stop being naive to what really happened.

    I'd also like to point out, Donnie made it clear multiple people had access to the bank. I tried to keep a name out of this cause there is no proof. So why do you bring up Emmaliz as the only person who could have done this?

  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sev View Post
    Did your ls bank ever sell gil to buy a bot?
    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    Did you bank ever fish....... "remotely"?

    possibly craft........"remotely"?
    I put my money here 99%.

    Otherwise maybe you could trade money to a sack and then to the member, not lowlvl mule trading millions to different persons each time, anyway, seriously, you probably got ripped off.

  6. #66
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    everyone will be on the other side of the fence speculating on different ways that it might happen but NO SE didn't fuck up, until they get it themselves. and by then others will do the same thing, I guess I am stating the obvious since its the internet! , but the only reason that was posted to see how frequent is this to other people.

    Other then that, no one knows how close we are within the LS and how long we have been together, we are not talking months we are talking years, which we had the lowest recycle of members i bet against any other LS.

    /caseclosed

  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hex View Post
    I can name 2 people I talk too from BBQ who bad mouth Emma and have called her out on waiting for a good time to screw over the LS. So maybe you should get your facts straight.

    Again I can bet you any amount of money our mule was GM'd numerous times over the years by idiots and the mule was attached to my account. Never once got in any sort of trouble and our items and gil in bank at times more than double/tripled what you had and that's just gil not the dozens of items we had duplicates of. Look around, no other LS has this problem and yours randomly does with quite frankly a weak bank. Stop being naive to what really happened.

    I'd also like to point out, Donnie made it clear multiple people had access to the bank. I tried to keep a name out of this cause there is no proof. So why do you bring up Emmaliz as the only person who could have done this?
    Well, to be fair, your experience in ffxi has been... a bit of an anomoly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzer View Post
    There isn't a single person in BBQ that would ever accuse Emmaliz (our banker) of doing such a malicious act so get your facts
    straight before badmouthing any of our senior leaders.
    Irrefutable proof that they did not do it.

  9. #69
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    From what I understand there are automated bots to search for rmt activity or so SE told us in a written statement. We had our LS bank banned a while back. The bank mule was on an account that we also used for gardening activity. The majority of the valuables lied in cashmere and dynamis currency, but there were millions in gil on it.Other characters were simply popset/trigger mules. After a painstaking ordeal with the SE task force our bank was finally returned to us complete.

    Long story short if your a huge pain in the ass SE will listen, apparently. And needless to say we do not garden on that account anymore.

    On a side note this account also did have satchel and what not unlocked so those do not deter the bots.

  10. #70
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    when my sky/sea shell broke I distributed the bank in 1M+ chunks to all members over a period of 1 week and that was in october/november
    not banned (^_^)b

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