Former child molestor sentenced to five years in jail for posting videos on Youtube

[Cream Soda]

Haha, alright, made me chuckle, thanks for livening up the situation. Well played, didn't even know that!

Regarding the probation, I wasn't aware of the fact that he was lucky to have received only a probation, I'm not exactly well-versed when it comes to law, thank you for that.

It's annoying that there's not an awful lot of information regarding this, though, mainly because the exact circumstances that have lead to the probation would be important to accurately judge how great a mistake he made.
Probably not important to most people anyway, but I still think that five years in jail are far too harsh considering he wasn't even an actual threat based on what we know right now.

Not really based on threat level. It's based on here are the rules, you break the rules and you will have consequences. He knew this, and still broke the rules.

[Overburn]

where was that site that tiled youtube videos? That was when I first saw that video and it was instantly better.

http://yooouuutuuube.com/ ?

[Ksandra]

For OP:

http://childprotection.lifetips.com/...er-statistics/

According to the U. S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics, on any given day there are approximately 234,000 sex offenders who were convicted of rape or sexual assault and are in the custody or control of correction agencies. Consider the following statistics:
* The median age of the victims of convicted sex offenders was less than 13 years old.
* Approximately 24% of those offenders confined for rape and 19% of those imprisoned for sexual assault had been on parole or probation at the time of the crime.
* In one year alone, approximately 4,300 child molesters in 15 states were released from imprisonment.
* Of the 4,300 child molesters released, approximately 3.3% were rearrested within three years for another sex offense against a child.

Simply put, if you molest a child, then you are on thin ice for the rest of your life, and rightly so. No exceptions. He's retarded for not following the rules of his probation.

[Headspace]

http://yooouuutuuube.com/ ?

yesssss

[willriker]

The man was in jail for a long time now, 20+ years? He is 77. 20+ years in prison with a pedophile wrap could not have been easy time at all. I believe he did his time. After spending that much time in prison, I am suprized he even knows how to use a computer. Heck, when he got out, and went to the library, he probably thought card catalogs were still in use.

Knowing that the internet was not even around when he was put into prison, heck we were still developing floppy disks for the early apples... how can someone rightly say that he shouldnt have access to a computer? It sounds like they have a blanket set of regulations to stick on people, based on thier crimes. Kind of like you have probation for X crime, so you get probation as dictated on Y sheet of paper. Then you combine it with people who feel the letter of the law always trumps the intention of the law and you get situations like this.

[Qalbert]

doesn't matter whether the restriction makes sense or not, it was a legal part of his probation that he willingly fucking violated.

[Demosthenes11]

The man was in jail for a long time now, 20+ years? He is 77. 20+ years in prison with a pedophile wrap could not have been easy time at all. I believe he did his time. After spending that much time in prison, I am suprized he even knows how to use a computer. Heck, when he got out, and went to the library, he probably thought card catalogs were still in use.

Knowing that the internet was not even around when he was put into prison, heck we were still developing floppy disks for the early apples... how can someone rightly say that he shouldnt have access to a computer? It sounds like they have a blanket set of regulations to stick on people, based on thier crimes. Kind of like you have probation for X crime, so you get probation as dictated on Y sheet of paper. Then you combine it with people who feel the letter of the law always trumps the intention of the law and you get situations like this.

your logic is great bro, he really didn't know what a webcam was, youtube, and how to post a video.
they have computers in prison...

also, OP, it is not the public's job to determine whether every sentence is correct or not.

[Gulkeeva]

my god watching that video... I'm going to have nightmares ;/

[zoobernut]

doesn't matter whether the restriction makes sense or not, it was a legal part of his probation that he willingly fucking violated.

I agree with this. It isn't like he was not on probation anymore. He was on probation, probation has strict rules, you agree to those rules as part of them letting you be on probation, if you don't agree with the rules of probation you don't have to be on probation and you can stay in jail. He agreed to the rules of probation, he broke said rules he went back to jail.

Probation is not a right it is a privilege, it is saying "I promise to behave" and the courts believing you so you get to get out of jail early (or not go to jail) and if you break those rules you are not behaving or keeping up with your end of the agreement.

When it comes to probation there really isn't room to bend the rules for circumstance.

Oh yeah and his youtube video is creepy as all hell.

[Petitssk]

For OP:

http://childprotection.lifetips.com/...er-statistics/



Simply put, if you molest a child, then you are on thin ice for the rest of your life, and rightly so. No exceptions. He's retarded for not following the rules of his probation.

I see, thanks for those statistics, never knew the exact numbers.

Also, "intention of the law" is just the phrase I was looking for, thanks, Willriker.

[Acturus]

That's exactly the problem, the inability of the relevant authorities to see what's beyond the law.

Now, just in advance, I agree that law must be maintained, no question there.

Sometimes, however, things start to get kind of ridiculous, take this case for instance.

He received the probation due to the fact that he moved without informing the local authorities, molestation-related probation basically.

Then he's sentenced to five years for violating his molestation-related probation even though there was no immediate danger of him molesting anyone.

Sounds kind of weird, but what really gives me a headache is the fact that he violated his probation because he used a means of communication that was essential to his resocialization and even contributed to society.

That's where "thinking beyond the law" becomes important, in my opinion at least, mainly because, as I stressed before, resocialization is just as important an aspect of justice as anything else, so why sentence him for violating molestation-related probations if checking his computer proved that there was no immediate danger?

What's more, aren't the prisons supposed to be rather full right now? Then why put people into jail who aren't even a danger?

That's my take on the matter at least.

Part of rehabilitiation involves a transitory period of time where the offender is reintroduced into society on a conditional basis. For addicts, it's a halfway house. For criminals, it's probation.

Punishment doesn't just "end" with jailtime.

[Souj]

http://yooouuutuuube.com/ ?

quoting this again because it's so much better than that 1st video.

[Shinryuu]

Youtube has jack shit to do with resocializing.

In modern society? Really? You best be trollin'.

[Yuri-G]

I think the OP's point here is that five years in prison for posting a youtube video is excessive.

I think the counterpoint is that five years in prison for a probation violation when you're a convicted child molester is not.

I also think both points are valid. The punishment is excessive and unjust, but he's an idiot and should never have broken his probation in the first place. And he shouldn't have moved without telling the authorities, which is what got him on probation in the first place.

End result, shit's fucked up no matter how you look at it. But whether the sentence is excessive or not, he knew what he was doing, and he did it anyway. Now he's paying the price. Whether he was looking up CP or not, the probation restrictions exist for a reason. As a society we can't just say, "Oh, that's too harsh."

I guess I look at it this way. The five years is an extension of his original sentence for diddling some kid, it's not just a five-year sentence for posting on youtube. It makes a lot more sense to me that way. He had the opportunity to cut his original sentence short by obeying a few rules, he broke the rules, back to prison he goes. Sorry buddy, try not to be a dumbass next time. Or, you know, don't fuck kids. That works too.

[Despain]

That man. Oh my God.

[antihero]

we might as well just execute child molesters since they'll never fit back into society, we'd be doing them a service

[Qalbert]

In modern society? Really? You best be trollin'.

INTERNET IS NOT SOCIAL.

[willriker]

Whether he was looking up CP or not, the probation restrictions exist for a reason. As a society we can't just say, "Oh, that's too harsh."

We can, and we should if we feel that it is too harsh. It is how our system is written. It is how our system works. Just because it is written on a piece of paper does not make it irrefutable[sp]. If something is unjust, even our own government, it is our right and responcibility to rize up to change it. regardless if you are in the majority, or the majority, on a view point... it is your right and responcibility to help shape societies rules to create a better place.

we might as well just execute child molesters since they'll never fit back into society, we'd be doing them a service

Thank you, someone gets it.

He did his time, he was released. Because he moved without reporting his location to the authorities he was placed back onto probation. This probationary period did not cut his time in jail short. He server the entire sentence. Bit, being a child molester he was placed back on probation because he moved without notifying someone.

While on this probation he posted some videos on youtube. Noone says when he had this PC. He could have even had it before he moved, hence before the probation. Now he gets nabbed for having the PC, and is shipped off to jail.

If my understanding is correct, its messed up.

[Demosthenes11]

my favorite part of this thread is the thread title
He isn't a child molester, he is a "former child molester"

[Demosthenes11]

[QUOTE=willriker;3426354][QUOTE=Yuri-G;3426266]Whether he was looking up CP or not, the probation restrictions exist for a reason. As a society we can't just say, "Oh, that's too harsh."

We can, and we should if we feel that it is too harsh. It is how our system is written. It is how our system works. Just because it is written on a piece of paper does not make it irrefutable[sp]. If something is unjust, even our own government, it is our right and responcibility to rize up to change it. regardless if you are in the majority, or the majority, on a view point... it is your right and responcibility to help shape societies rules to create a better place.


Thank you, someone gets it.

He did his time, he was released. Because he moved without reporting his location to the authorities he was placed back onto probation. This probationary period did not cut his time in jail short. He server the entire sentence. Bit, being a child molester he was placed back on probation because he moved without notifying someone.

While on this probation he posted some videos on youtube. Noone says when he had this PC. He could have even had it before he moved, hence before the probation. Now he gets nabbed for having the PC, and is shipped off to jail.

If my understanding is correct, its messed up.

yes you obviously understand everything a lot better than the judges and people that have, well, more than a small poorly written article with no sources and few details. you are making so many leaps there its lol.
but society obviously just hates child touchers