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    Quote Originally Posted by Asai View Post
    I believe there's a difference in say, walking outside and seeing a man knock another man out and wanting to attack him for hurting someone, and this. In the previous example, some guy could have been defending himself from an attacker, saving someone else, etc. This, is just plain, cold, brutal, murder. There is no motive, no underlying "we caught the guy that's been raping children for years", just a pack of thugs with serious mental problems killing innocent people.

    To say it is hypocritical and silly to want to see to it that they be made VERY aware of what they've been doing to other by putting them through the exact same thing is what is truly "thick". If it makes me sick and pisses me off, it just proves I'm more human than they are. I'm not advocating murder, I'm advocating justice. I'm sorry but if i'm wrong to want to ensure these bastards suffer for what they've done, and to instill a true understanding in them of just how bad what they did was, then I don't want to be right.
    Somehow I think people underestimate the effect of being assfucked by big siberian mobsters every day for the rest of their lives. Either way, good luck with your eye for an eye. Definitely makes you more human and not an irrational dick. No question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asai View Post
    I'm sorry but if i'm wrong to want to ensure these bastards suffer for what they've done, and to instill a true understanding in them of just how bad what they did was, then I don't want to be right.
    Guys it's okay if it's FOR MY OWN REASONS.

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    I don't know what the effects of daily anal rape are on detached/insane people like them, but I bet there's at least 21 families out there that agree with me when I say they should be put to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asai View Post
    by putting them through the exact same thing
    Really? That sounds a bit different from the death penalty.

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    Why not just force them, Clockwork Orange style, to watch re-runs of Full House for the rest of their lives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanss View Post
    I hate to keep talking about the video but what was that he was bashing his face with right off? didn't look like any hammer i had ever seen unless it was wrapped in something.
    Hammer in a bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asai View Post
    I don't know what the effects of daily anal rape are on detached/insane people like them, but I bet there's at least 21 families out there that agree with me when I say they should be put to death.
    Death penatly =\= beating and torturing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    Really? That sounds a bit different from the death penalty.
    I don't recall saying death penalty. Or lethal injection/electrocution/many other things for that matter. I dunno if I should be sorry for making that seem implied or thank you for trying to take that out of context.

    I said put to death. As in, killed. Yes, I personally feel they should experience the same thing they induced 21 times over, and yes I understand that is my own opinion. It's the call of the families involved in what exactly should be done to them. I'm not neglecting that fact, however I'm not familiar with the law system over there and from what I've seen of our own, I'd half expect them to get out when they're 60-70 years old on pleas of insanity and decades of therapy.

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    I grew up in that region of Dnepropetrovsk.

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    ITT: Sense of self-righteousness justifies torture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    After watching the video of where the terrorists cut off the guys head, I've vowed to never watch a real death video. Fuck that.
    Those terrorist videos aren't shit compared to the longer version of this video. This one the OP posted isn't the only one, or close to the worse one. Anyone saying this video wasn't that bad hasn't seen the longer version they used in trial.

    Fuck.That.Shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Death penatly =\= beating and torturing them.
    http://images.bluegartr.com/forum/cu...tar55104_2.gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    ITT: Sense of self-righteousness justifies torture.
    I can't really think of it as torture. To an innocent like the man in the video? Sure, I can call that torture. To those murderers though... They did this shit on purpose, many times over. How....

    Okay, you know what? You're right. I have no idea what's going to really happen to them. I know what I'd like to happen to them, but whatever. I know you guys aren't defending THEM, but the legal system that they're being handed over to. I'm empathizing with the victims too much, seeing that video is still fresh in my head and it seriously got me heated. To me all you were both saying sounded like you were defending them, or that you weren't taking into account how the families involved felt. Sorry for being irrational. I just need to chill out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    I guess I'm a hypocrite, but kill them w/ fire, pls.
    Yeah... that's definitely the most fucked up thing I read in the story. (fetus)

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    For the religious types, god will sort all of this out in the end. The courts role is to simply insure that they cannot continue their destructive behavior. And that noone else shall suffer at the hands of these people.

    For the people shocked at what they just saw. You are good people.

    For the people who have become desencitized[sp] to this imagery. I know what your talking about, its interesting how people can become numb to this sort of thing, but it does not make you less outraged. And that is wonderful.

    To those who think revenge, and advocate an eye for an eye aproach... in general, people all over the world have moved away from that approach as a resolution to these situations. Sure, in its day, the eye for an eye approach was necisary. But, today it is not. With the types of crimes these people have commited... thier time in prison will not be enjoyable. Those who willingly cut a fetus out of a pregnant woman, living or not, will not find solice in that environment. That is the best type of punishment you can provide. Place them in an evironment where the people thay were trying to impress are the ones who make their remaining lives horrible.

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    I'm not defending the legal system, I'm saying it is pretty fucked up to witness something like that and then turn around and advocate that that exact same thing happen again, from a trumped-up sense of morality that can allow for atrocity if you think you have a good reason.

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    I saw this video a few months back when it was tagged as "3 guys 1 hammer."

    I was expecting poo or something of comedic value, I expected wrong.

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    Putting people death is probably the easiest thing for them to endure. It may seem cruel unusual etc., but it's much harder living for 70 years than it is to just die. Personally, I think torture of a mentally deranged person or what have you wouldn't really do any justice, needs to be more mental torture of some sort. Find something that hurts and hit it hard. Though I'm not really all that right in my head but lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fren. View Post
    I saw this video a few months back when it was tagged as "3 guys 1 hammer."

    I was expecting poo or something of comedic value, I expected wrong.
    oh I assumed this was the screwdriver one that was posted here a while back >.>

    didn't even click the link heh, fuck that shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    I'm not defending the legal system, I'm saying it is pretty fucked up to witness something like that and then turn around and advocate that that exact same thing happen again, from a trumped-up sense of morality that can allow for atrocity if you think you have a good reason.
    I mean shit even the best vigilante to ever live, charles bronson, would just shoot the offenders or hit them with a roll of quarters in a sock

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