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  1. #761
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    There is nothing wrong with a dragoon, but there isn't much reason to go out of your way to get one. Don't bring an undergeared one/etc. Angon is the best thing they bring (in addition to being a solid DD if player properly). Personally, I'd go out of my way to get the corsair in, not the dragoon.

    Player 1: RDM
    Player 2: BRD THF (Storm Fife? TH4?)
    Player 3: COR
    Player 4: WAR (or mnk if significantly better geared)
    Player 5: WAR (or mnk if significantly better geared)
    Player 6: THF BRD (Storm Fife? TH4?)
    Player 7: WHM

    Both BRDs and all THFs have Storm Fife and THF. MNK and WAR are both very well geared on the characters. Basically what you put is our standard set-up, except the COR is a SAM or runs THF if our other THF is on SCH or just not there.

    It wasn't going out of our way for DRG, but seeing some posts about DRG in Salvage, curious if it was worth really considering.

  2. #762
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    ACP body can give enmity, but then again, why would you need enmity for JoL ¿ If you got duelist's chapeau stick to coral+1 or crimson(+1), moar HP can only be a good thing.
    And yet that little more HP won't do jack for casting, so why not get an extra +1MP while casting your sleep's and dispel's by idling in Dalmatica or Morrigan's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dathus View Post
    Both BRDs and all THFs have Storm Fife and THF. MNK and WAR are both very well geared on the characters. Basically what you put is our standard set-up, except the COR is a SAM or runs THF if our other THF is on SCH or just not there.

    It wasn't going out of our way for DRG, but seeing some posts about DRG in Salvage, curious if it was worth really considering.
    You don't take any risk in salvage if you had 2DD+THF and a brd, so which DD you chose doesn't matter. Even 3 THF will do good. So you have to base your choice of which of your DDs are best geared/merited, and this applies also to your mages, which has the best gear etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhiGaruda View Post
    And yet that little more HP won't do jack for casting, so why not get an extra +1MP while casting your sleep's and dispel's by idling in Dalmatica or Morrigan's?
    The question was when you don't have refresh body, try reading

  5. #765
    The Syrup To Waffles's Waffle
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    No Refresh body? Suck less™.

  6. #766
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    The question was when you don't have refresh body, try reading
    Advocating tanking in Crimson Scale Mail is like saying he should tank in Bronze Scale Mail. Neither will help you in any way

  7. #767
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Sorry, gonna have to call you our for being full of shit here. SSR has 8+NM if you go Morri route, 16+2xNM if you go other route. AR has 8+2-9 more depending how many you farm for cells/kill because someone sucks at avoiding truesound mobs. ZR has 12 gears. BR has 12+links I guess?
    Furthermore, how does "more cells" make drg a better option for an extraneous DD? Every DD wants "more cells" to be better, and dragon gains nothing more than any other DD on any slot outside of ranged.
    Gears in ZR is only if you're going for boss, else there are none, so if you're going for boss then drg is fine choice for it then, if not I wouldn't take drg for frogs over other jobs they have.
    I just mainly disagree about drg ever being a good choice for AR with limited cells there I would prefer sam, mnk, blm, or cor would fitting in the 7th slot much better since lack of SJ hurts drg, and pierce resistant enemies do as well. Addition given fight method of NMs for AR compared to SSR make angon not as large of improvement.

  8. #768
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    SE has never successfully capped Wyvern abilities in cap zones. Their level is still capped, but their abilities are the same as when they're outside. So a level 40 Wyvern can use Healing Breath III and Remove Paralyze.
    They did finally fix that actually, like a year ago I think. Wyverns get their abilities capped properly now, you won't get remove paralysis for that bcnm any more.

  9. #769
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercilessturtle View Post
    They did finally fix that actually, like a year ago I think. Wyverns get their abilities capped properly now, you won't get remove paralysis for that bcnm any more.
    Ah, I used to BCNM30 on DRG40/BLU20, but I was banned about a year ago for salvage duping so I haven't done it since.

  10. #770
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    BCNM30 on DRG40/BLU20
    Whoa whoa whoa..

  11. #771
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    Whoa whoa whoa..
    The question came about because the wiki article stated your drg needed to be 40+ for it to work in a bcnm30, which is - I assume - why he listed his drg as lvl 40, so that it fulfilled the "drg must be 40+ for healing breaths" criteria, even though you're being capped at 30.

  12. #772
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    Whoosh. '-'

  13. #773
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    I figured you were going for that, but whatever. Have a +1 on me.

  14. #774
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    tried searching but I can't find the exact answer I'm looking for.

    I just installed the game on a new computer, using the ultimate collection dvd. I figured there might be some small updates to do, but it can't be much... When I go to do the update, it checks ALL of the ffxi files, and now wants to download over 16k files for the update. I don't think that can be right, that's like half of the whole game. Is there another way I should be doing this so I don't have such a huge update?

  15. #775
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    Retarded question.
    Can Too Weak mobs spawn locked Treasure Caskets?

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    Yes

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    Thank you.

  18. #778
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    Am I missing something completely obvious (it certainly feels this way), or is Avalon Breastplate the best body to TP in for Kraken RNG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedz View Post
    Am I missing something completely obvious (it certainly feels this way), or is Avalon Breastplate the best body to TP in for Kraken RNG?
    Hachiryu Haramaki, Skadi's Cuirie, possibly Cobra Harness due to the STP but the multihit aspect really weakens that. Probably only Hachi and Skadi are better.

  20. #780
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedz View Post
    Am I missing something completely obvious (it certainly feels this way), or is Avalon Breastplate the best body to TP in for Kraken RNG?
    Skadi body is obivously better, and I think ACP body with acc/STP?[since DW does nothing] maybe if you have nothing else to use it on?

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