MAJOR Emerging Issue with Radeon Cards

[Auspice]

10.1 Catalyst is NOT working as good as 9.1 for me. My FPS dropped 10-15 than it was on 9.1, rolling back. :/

EDIT: Son of a bitch, I reinstalled 9.1 but I'm still having framerate issues and textures are blocky as fuck.

[Tythera]

You run one of the driver cleaners after uninstalling 10.1? Willing to bet that's the issue if you didn't.

[Auspice]

You run one of the driver cleaners after uninstalling 10.1? Willing to bet that's the issue if you didn't.

I uninstalled all ATI shit from my Control Panel; is there some software I should be using?

Son of a bitch, I should've never tried the new drivers. When I boot up Windows now my screen goes blank for a good 15-20 seconds and dual boxing is fucking terrible.

[Tythera]

Install this: http://downloads.guru3d.com/Guru3D--...load-1655.html

Uninstall ATI, boot into safe mode, run that cleaner and check the ATI box, it'll nuke something like 40 files left over, then try putting your 9.1s back in

[Auspice]

Now it's not installing the new drivers at all. I even rolled back to last week before I even did all these updates and having the same fucking issue. I'm seriously about to just wipe the entire machine and reinstall everything. FML

[Velgadess]

have 4870's x2 in XFire mode. have only updated drivers once when I updated from lolVista x64 to Win7 x64. never have had any of these issues. I also dont bother with OC'ing or anything.

[Purrrfect]

Haven't had any grey lines or whatever on my 4870, but only my cpu/ram is OC'd. Idid have a nice problem last night though. Playing Aion (windowed, not full screen) and unplugged my HDMI cable from the monitor (had to plug in the ps3 since its not smart enough to switch to other graphic modes when a HDMI cable is not connnected...) and when I plugged the PC HDMI back in I got nothing to the monitor. Unplugging/replugging at both ends didn't help, tried the other DVI port on the video card and heard the windows sound for new hardware but nothing on screen. Plugged back to port 1 and now I have a mouse on a black screen and can still hear sound from the game going. Hitting reset and starting windows up the screen drops out midway through booting, only way to get into windows was safe mode, then disabling the video card in device manager and going back into windows normally. But with it disabled I couldn't run CCC to change anything, so had to uninstall all of CCC. Just because I unplugged the HDMI cable... seriously, wtf.

[Furtwangler]

I'm just gonna bump this instead of making a new topic. I just bought and built my new computer, which has a Radeon 5770 in it. i7-860 (quad with HT) etc. I ran crysis on it just to get a feel for what it could handle, maxed out all settings, and I'm getting some clipping especially during the cutscenes (I think that's what it's called.) there are like horizontal blocks I can see forming in the movie. Just doesn't flow right.
Every now and then like when I start to fire a weapon it also siezes up for half a second as well.

Any ideas what's causing it? I'd imagine the card should be able to run the game fine. I'm in the process to upgrading to the 10 drivers and ditching CCC and putting in ATT, I have win 7 x64. Hopefully the driver switch and installing ATT will fix any problems but just curious speculation wise if anyone had any ideas.

[Shadowhusky]

Stuff.

Over heating?

[Furtwangler]

It's not OC'd, it happens instantly whenever a game starts, so it must be overheating really fast. Airflow is good in the case, I doubt it.

[Shadowhusky]

It's not OC'd, it happens instantly whenever a game starts, so it must be overheating really fast. Airflow is good in the case, I doubt it.

Doesn't have to be OC'd to overheat. Could be a driver issue too. Does this happen with any other games?

[Furtwangler]

I just got the card yesterday, haven't had a chance to play anything else yet. Benching it on Sandra for video rendering gave me this :

Spoiler: show

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3387/benchzk.jpg

Which seems to show there being quite the problem, compared to what it has listed as my card it's almost half that. I just downloaded the most recent drivers off of ati's site, and have ati tray tools installed.

Edit: Just ran it with dx10 instead of 11, and it's giving me better results than normal, doesn't make any sense

Spoiler: show

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4759/bench2.jpg

[Missnasty]

Thankfully I'm running 9.1 on my 4850 since nothing higher works with XI heh.

Can someone please explain this statement? I have an older ATI card (X850) so I'm stuck using the 9.x series drivers since my card is so old. I keep on having weird crashing problems that I think are driver related. I run Windows 7 64-bit and after getting so fed up with crashing problems, I reinstalled Windows and after updating my drivers to 9.11 I just had another crash.

[Auspice]

Can someone please explain this statement? I have an older ATI card (X850) so I'm stuck using the 9.x series drivers since my card is so old. I keep on having weird crashing problems that I think are driver related. I run Windows 7 64-bit and after getting so fed up with crashing problems, I reinstalled Windows and after updating my drivers to 9.11 I just had another crash.

I didn't think you could use anything older than 10 on Windows 7? Assuming you can, I had the best luck with 9.1; NOT 9.11.

Sadly I'm stuck using 10 since I upgraded my PC to Windows 7 this week but thankfully it's running better than 10 did on XP. Same machine too, who knows.

[Furtwangler]

Going down to 9.1 drivers fixed the problem so, yea. Like a friend of mine said earlier, with ati, you have to wait until the newest drivers come out to download the old ones.

[Olo401]

AMD/ATI Issues Hotfix for problematic 58xx video cards

Dunno why there's no fix available for the 57xx line... you'd think it was the same problem.

[Missnasty]

I think it's a problem with a recent Windows update. When I made my 02-06-2010 03:50 PM post I had just reinstalled FF XI after letting Windows update do it's stuff. This time I reinstalled Windows and only let Windows update installed updates from last year and FF XI has been running 2 days straight now. I'm using the default video card drivers that come with Windows 7. I know that I had Catalyst 9.7 working for fine a very long time. My next step will be to install those.

[Elizara]

...This is making me think I'd better not get another ATI card if I ever rebuild my puter.

I got a 3600 series one myself(AGP card), and haven't had a lot of problems with it (other than annoying rendering errors I haven't been able to get rid of in FFXI and occasional freeze up/blackscreening; but the computer is old).

I may go with Nivida when the time comes. Never mind they're slower. ^^

[Amastacia]

Then let's make you think again.

Firstly, it's a mistake to assume that what is most likely a driver issue will haunt ATI cards for all time to come.

Secondly, it's a mistake to owe loyalty/disloyalty to any brand based on past performance. If/when you rebuild, you should research and find out which is the best product at your price point.

If you were rebuilding today, even with this issue (which, by the way, has a hotfix and workarounds, both posted in this thread), you would be foolish to buy nVidia. ATI has much more compelling offerings across the entire product range, but most noticeably in the mainstream market.

In the next few months, nVidia will likely capture the outright performance crown once they finally release their hideously delayed GF100-based cards. It will remain to be seen how competitive their mainstream/value segment offerings will be. If past behavior is any indicator, the outlook is not good. That being said, past behavior is not always an indicator, just ask ATI about that.

It is a simple reality that both companies have had major issues at one point or another. Both will again. After all the issues with the 5000 series GeForce cards, I thought I'd have a hard time buying nVidia again, but then the 6000 series came out and was stellar.

And just for the record, my 5870 is the first ATI card I've ever owned. I went from GeForce 3 to GeForce 4 to GeForce 6 to GeForce 8. When I could afford upgrades, nVidia had the best cards. This time around, that was not the case, and the past performance of both companies and previous buying practices had no part in my decision.

My 5870 even had this exact issue. I saw a post about a workaround (the one I posted regarding HDMI audio... I don't use HDMI anyway, so easy for me to do). Since then I've not had one GSOD, in any game, and other miscellaneous issues have drastically reduced with each new driver revision. ATI's driver folks take a beating (and for good reason), but products improve over time, and the 5000 series Radeon cards are doing just that.

[Auspice]

it's a mistake to owe loyalty/disloyalty to any brand based on past performance. If/when you rebuild, you should research and find out which is the best product at your price point.

THIS THIS THIS. I hop between hardware manufacturers nearly every time I build a PC just based on what the best at the time is and it's never done me wrong.