MAG (PS3)

[Shojin]

Also, is the Battle Rifles actually worth it now that they're supposedly stronger, or is the AR2 still the best AR Valor can get?

I would like to know this too, I kind of want to try it out

[zoobernut]

I have no interest in the other PMCs or trophies myself, so I'm definitely sticking with Valor now that I've hit 60. Though I do sort of miss watching the exp bar take a massive jump up after a really kick ass match.

However, being 60, i can finally respec a bajillion times to try out all the different skill trees and such. So far I've found that no matter what, I love the CQC and PD trees, and that the electronics tree is very expensive for very little pay off. I mean, I have the motion sensor on my main Commando build, and it's real nice being able to tell where other people are, but the other stuff doesn't seem all that useful for a close up grunt like myself. I've also found out how messed up and expensive the AR tree actually is, and how heavy...and kind of unimpressive...a fully loaded one can be.

So what's the best way to get a lot of use from the AR tree while still having enough SP to fully open up the CQC/Athletics/Support trees? I think my biggest issue with the AR was just a crappy attachment load-out and skill selection. Also, is the Battle Rifles actually worth it now that they're supposedly stronger, or is the AR2 still the best AR Valor can get?

I have all the CQC stuff I need unlocked (for the shotgun I skipped the smg) and I have enough points left over to unlock everything I need in the AR tree as well as the medic tree. and I am only lvl 52. Unlock all the green skills, the forward grip, the silencer, the 4x optical scope, and the t2 AR it is a beast of a gun at that point. and it goes really great with your commando skills such as stealth and endurance and increased health.

[Biddinger]

Also, is the Battle Rifles actually worth it now that they're supposedly stronger, or is the AR2 still the best AR Valor can get?

Battle rifle is not worth it for Valor. I've been respec'ing using all the weapons available this past week and the battle rifle's horrible accuracy (even up close) makes it in no way worth the points compared to the 2nd tier AR.

[Logain]

Can some of you come over to Raven so that there are some DECENT FUCKING PLAYERS over here!!!!!!! Seriously, I have not seen a more ragtag group of clusterfucking asswipes since MW2. The good news is I'm already level 25 after one night of play so I'll be headed over to valor soon hopefully.

The biggest difference I can tell so far besides general dumbassery is that at least in SVER bad SLs got kicked very quickly. If you didnt assign fragos or communicate you got your ass booted. However in Raven, the squads just seem to be ok with this. I've only had 2 battles in which the SLs provided decent fragos and communicated ( besides the fights where I've been SL).

On a side note, I love this LMG!

[Biddinger]

so I'll be headed over to valor soon hopefully.

When you do so, you'll be playing with real pros...unlike shoj's group of noobs!

[Hiryo]

lol yall crazy.

Also, i tried respec'ing into a full attack build with sniper rifle and 3rd tier AR and everything and i sucked . I can't snipe worth a damn(i never could in any game) so i got next to the worse on my team. Went ahead and changed back to my original support build.

[Shojin]

When you do so, you'll be playing with real pros...unlike shoj's group of noobs!

Yeah, hope you like Sabotage Logain, because that's all you'll have a chance to win at.

[Logain]

Yeah, hope you like Sabotage Logain, because that's all you'll have a chance to win at.

Haha, we actually beat Sevr a few times yesterday in domination. I switched back to AR from LMG ( finally got my medal) so my K/D went through the roof. I haven't lost a round yet as SL, but every game I've been not nominated has been a complete struggle to do anything but spawn repeatedly.

The biggest difference I see in Sevr and Raven is basically Sevr actually has decent SLs (for the most part), but god damn Raven is like a bunch of 5 year old frenchies ( and yes I do mean frenchies are worse at FPS style games than the rest of the world)... grumble grumble grumble..

Also FUCK ALL THE BITCHES IN RAVEN WHO DON'T USE A GD MEDIC KIT. Seriously, it seems in Sevr and Valor most everyone uses a med kit in almost all of their builds. In Raven, I'm usually the only fucker with a med kit in the enter freaking squad. And they wonder why we can't assault anything in the interior of maps with any freaking reliability or success. I HATE THIS GD PMC.

/rant off

[Shojin]

Raven only really win at Acquisition. Valor only really win at Sabotage (when SVER isn't kicking their ass) and SVER usually win at Domination and Sabotage.

Acquisition seems to always be 2 contracts at Raven. Not sure if it's their map or what, but it's also the one they play the most. I can't remember the last time I went against Valor in Acquisition. Also, can't remember the last time I went against Raven in Sabotage, lol.

[Ziero]

Yeah, hope you like Sabotage Logain, because that's all you'll have a chance to win at.

Mainly because it's the only game mode we can play that doesn't rely on us having to defend the worst bunker lines in the game. I mean really, when you think about it, it's the Bunker line that makes or breaks Dom and ACQ. Valor's maps have some horribad frontal defenses, Raven has a terrible line in Dom, but a strong set up in ACQ and SVER...well they have walls of death right in front of the only real ways into the heart of their maps.

Also, funny thing happened last night. I start up a Sabo match attacking Raven and get into a squad that has about 5 guys from a clan in it. While still in the Queue, about three players on my Squad drop, including one guy from the clan. As soon as the match starts, the remaining 4 people of the clan realize the other guy got dropped...so they all decided to up and leave too.

In the end, I was literally a one man Squad. Now at this point, I'm thinking to myself "I'm really not that good of a player...so I'm going to get my ass kicked". But being the masochist I am, I throw on my commando load-out, give myself SL, get on Platoon chat and let everyone know that my squad was literally empty. Got a few lols and rofls...as it was pretty damn funny but luckily one of the squads attacking the other objective was filled with my own clanmates so they sent a few guys over to help us out.

I spent the majority of the match sneaking my way around to the far rear of Raven's B, causing havoc as respawned people ran past and got ambushed while the other Squad and the few guys from A all took over B. Eventually I finally got a second squadmate, who joined in with a resounding "WTF there's only two guys on this squad!". I respond "yup" and he's all "don't matter, we'll still kick their ass"...and we did. We took both A and B, then clawed our way into C and won the whole damn thing.

Sadly I didn't get any of the MVP spots...because again, I'm really not all that good...but I did have a 1/1 kdr for the match and 300ish points, which isn't bad seeing as I had no real squad to back me up.

[Biddinger]

While I do agree that valor has horrible bunker placement. I think blame still needs to fall on the SL/squad. I've been in countless defending maps where my clan holds the bunker for the majority of the game but we still lose because other people can't hold their bunkers. I feel good team work/communication between the SL/squad can hold the bunkers for a good amount of time.

That being said....yes, sver's bunkers are still unfair.

[Ziero]

Patch v1.04

Available March 12, 2010 | 40MB (TPPS), 30MB (DLS)

Gameplay

* Fixed bug that made it possible for incapacitated players to be revived inside geometry (objectives, vehicles, walls, bridges, etc.).
* Corrected “Kills at 120m” stat display bug.

Weapons

* Sniper rifles have been tuned to be less effective when they’re not scoped.
* Slightly pushed out “effective” range of all short-ranged weapons (pistols, PDWs, shotguns, SMGs).

Interface

* Fixed error text “undefined Unnamed” and the appearance of a blue APC icon that appeared when a Squad Leader FRAGO’d an APC objective.

Server

* Significant anti-cheat improvement that minimizes and blocks several “lag pedal” device exploits.
* Enhanced all queues to accept Zipper-activated “Directives” game states.

Also, the Pre-order armor sets are now free DLC on PSN for North America.

http://blog.mag.com/blog/2010/03/pat...e-bonus-armor/

Zipper makes me hot.

[Shojin]

When it says "Slightly pushed out", does it mean giving them a little more range? If so, fuck yeah shotgun.

[Ziero]

I would assume so, it's basically a way to give close range weapons a bit more accuracy and effectiveness over slightly longer ranges. This was a major issue with SMGs and pistols post 1.03, so giving them some more usefulness is just <3

Also, fuck yeah shotgun.

[recuperi]

Was this the huge patch they were talking about? If so, it's underwhelming, but if not, can't wait to see it

edit: I'm gonna go on and assume it isn't, now that I read over the notes again. I'm pretty sure they said the map fixes (Valor F, spawn camping) would be in the big one, and they're nowhere on the list

[Shojin]

Don't think it is, this just seems like routine big fixing and adjustments, with the pre-order DLC now being free.

[Ziero]

This patch and the big map patch are two different things. The big patch is going to cover all known map bugs, glitches and exploits, as well as bring balance to certain parts to make them weaker/stronger. That patch is going to take a bit longer since they wanna stuff as many fixes into it as possible and balance all the maps all at once and not have to come back a dozen times over making players constantly redownload huge maps.

That patch probably won't come out until around the same time as the DLC they mentioned that was coming.

[zoobernut]

I was just about to come post this. Awesome fixes. They will get to the map changes but that is going to be a big deal when they do because it requires geometry changes in the maps.

Cool on the DLC armor too. I am very happy about the SMG/Shotgun changes too I might have to go back and respec again and unlock the SMG instead of the AR for my commando setup.

[Krazy]

So I've got nearly 70 kills with my shotgun, about 900 points under my belt, and bam, game connection lost. Fuck you MAG.

[Krazy]

Patch broke the game. Getting tons of 5:5 errors and when you get revived after being killed while disarming bombs or repairing your system freezes. And sometimes when you get revived, you stay on the ground.