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  1. #981
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craine View Post
    i can't get SS's of my gear atm but want to know what to change.

    Tp gear only, ws gear is set aside from some heca+1

    Scythe: Tred
    Sub: pole grip
    ammo: bomb core
    Body: Ebody
    head: ace's helm
    neck: J torque
    Earrings: abyssal/brutal
    rings: blitz/rajas
    hands: homam
    legs: homam
    feet: homam
    waist: swift belt
    back: foragers mantle

    any comments or suggestions?
    501 Scythe, Walahra Turban, Fire Bomblet/Cuch Mantle if necessary.

    EDIT: OAT Scythe would obviously be best if it's ~50% but presuming you want a "quick fix", get a Perdu/Moli and wait to see what the OAT rate is. If it's 50% though, it's gonna dwarf all other (nonrelic) scythes.

  2. #982
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craine View Post
    i can't get SS's of my gear atm but want to know what to change.

    Tp gear only, ws gear is set aside from some heca+1

    Scythe: Tred
    Sub: pole grip
    ammo: bomb core
    Body: Ebody
    head: ace's helm
    neck: J torque
    Earrings: abyssal/brutal
    rings: blitz/rajas
    hands: homam
    legs: homam
    feet: homam
    waist: swift belt
    back: foragers mantle

    any comments or suggestions?
    Blitz+Aces is 4Str better than Turban+Toredor, but is still not a useful combo unless you know for a fact that youonly need that 7acc to cap accuracy. Concidering not every mob has the same evasion you won't know this. Blitz+Ace's generally says "look at me i have good gear but don't know how to use it properly".

    Get an Acc ring, use it with Ace's, bomblet and either Abyss Cape or Cuch. Use this when your acc is uncapped. Then use Foragers/bomb core along with Blitz Ring and turban for situations where your acc is capped.

    inb4 "shows us your zerg set, it's the only one we care about"

  3. #983
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    What is it with everone using blitz ring incorrectly these last few pages.

    Blitz ring should be one of the first things you swap for acc when you need it.

    Using bomb core with it, then using ace's....


    head> turban
    ammo> bomblet (one of the most efficient accuracy pieces there is)
    back> acc (cuch or relic cape or lucky beak mantle augment).

    swap attack back in if your acc allows.

  4. #984
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    What is it with everone using blitz ring incorrectly these last few pages.

    Blitz ring should be one of the first things you swap for acc when you need it.

    Using bomb core with it, then using ace's....


    head> turban
    ammo> bomblet (one of the most efficient accuracy pieces there is)
    back> acc (cuch or relic cape or lucky beak mantle augment).

    swap attack back in if your acc allows.
    Perhaps you know more about the X/1024 rule that makes this argument invalid, but otherwise, I think the following qualifies as an argument *if* you're looking for ACC (i.e. very rarely with Pizza)

    Ace's + Blitz = 5% Haste, 4 STR, 7 ACC
    Turban + Toreador = 5% Haste, 7ACC

    The latter obviously grants more ACC if you have the new DEX ring or any augmented DEX ring with ACC. That said, the former of the two looks like a winner.

  5. #985
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    ok. i was at acc cap at last merit party i was in. i have 304 scythe skill (merits/gear) and i do have a fire bomblet. however i was at cap at last party so i was using bomb core for more dot. i guess i should see if im parcing at capped acc without my aces helm. if not keep it on if so put on turban. unless i'm doing it wrong.

    however would i be better using turban+snipers+1 or aces+blitz. got mixed opinions on this so far. thanks :D

  6. #986
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    They already adressed that. Turban + Blitz if your acc is fine. Swap Ace's > Toreador's if there's nothing else to swap and you really need the accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craine View Post
    ok. i was at acc cap at last merit party i was in. i have 304 scythe skill (merits/gear) and i do have a fire bomblet. however i was at cap at last party so i was using bomb core for more dot. i guess i should see if im parcing at capped acc without my aces helm. if not keep it on if so put on turban. unless i'm doing it wrong.

    however would i be better using turban+snipers+1 or aces+blitz. got mixed opinions on this so far. thanks :D
    As mentioned above, Ace's + Blitz should be superior unless Walahra and Blitz are special cases when Haste is brought to the X/1024 level (It's some system Kirschy derived). I personally don't like either combination though.

    Due to the way statistic sampling works, your method of parsing for a small amount of time then taking off a piece of gear to check accuracy will not work in the short-term. If you are planning on doing that over a large sample (Probably in the thousands), then it would work. The reason is because as you increase the amount of samples you have, minor errors of fluctuations tend to fade out. However, when you have a small sample, you're subject to testing errors that may skew the data. For instance, if your ACC is 95% (Capped), you would expect 95 hits to land and 5 hits to miss. The problem is that it never dictates *when* those will come into play. You could get those five misses on your first five swings. Fill the parse out after ten hits and you would presumably have 50% ACC. Take into account that my example is very controlled and assumes a lot of things. For instance, because it is not determined that you'll actually land 95/100 swings, even if you were to parse the full 100 hits, you may come out with a skewed data set. Overall, the best way to calculate your ACC% is to use the ACC formula and figure out the following:

    Mob's Total EVAs
    Skill ACC = ((Your skill-200)*9 + 200)
    Gear ACC
    DEX ACC = (DEX*75) OR (DEX*.5)
    ACC Traits/External ACC factors such as Focus, Hasso, or Aggressor

  8. #988
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    However, a mob's evasion isn't always known(outside of merit mob lv). It's good to have experience with certain mobs so you know approximatly how much Acc you'll need, and use the parser to fine-tune from there.

    Most lower tier events limbus/einhurrhurrjar/city dynamis normally need around the same amount of acc as bird camp, so 400-410 acc is a good benchmark to aim for with a full-haste build.

    you'll obviously need more acc or different food for hnms and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    Most lower tier events limbus/einhurrhurrjar/city dynamis normally need around the same amount of acc as bird camp, so 400-410 acc is a good benchmark to aim for with a full-haste build.
    wrong.

    Einherjar : yes
    dynamis city limbus : A LOT less

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    I wouldn't say 'a lot' less, with 0 buffs up my WAR and DRK both hit 395-400 for TP, and my acc doesn't cap in cities without food according to every parse I've done in them.

  11. #991
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    my acc doesn't cap in cities without food according to every parse I've done in them.
    Do you stay engaged during Perfect Dodge? Thf mobs can really mess your parses up.

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    my cor caps acc in cities, if your war and drk don't then get better gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    my cor caps acc in cities, if your war and drk don't then get better gear
    ^This

    Even staying engaged for 2 rounds on PD (probably average if you are paying attention as much as possible over 3 grinding hours) the parse will be drastically skewed.

  14. #994
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooom View Post
    Do you stay engaged during Perfect Dodge? Thf mobs can really mess your parses up.
    This may be what does it, usually on DRK I cast drains/absorbs during PD, but on WAR I typically stay engaged. I'll try to start turning away on PD and see how that changes things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    my cor caps acc in cities, if your war and drk don't then get better gear
    I've posted my WAR, aside from the blahblahRajas bit most of you guys know I don't use anything especially gimped/retarded. The only time I'm not hitting at least 405 is with absolutely 0 Acc buffs since I don't have room for GAxe merits and am stuck with Hauberk +1 instead of EBody. I changed to Rose Strap to at least keep a 6-hit the larger portion of the time when Aggressor is down.

    As far as DRK, I just finished it to 75 a few days ago with no merits yet, this is what I have so far, that lear is an Abyssal:

    Spoiler: show
    http://slashangry.net/callisto/drkgear.png

    My spellcast changes sets by which acc buffs I have up, this isn't exactly all of them but most of it, I just make them hit 406-410...

    Top row: Idle > TP w/o buffs or just hasso or abs-acc > TP with DE + Hasso or abs-acc, or just SE, etc > TP with DE + SE + Hasso or abs

    Bottom row: TP with full acc buffs > WS with no buffs > WS with a couple buffs > WS with full buffs


    I could stand to have some input on the full acc buff WS, I'd like to slide more attack in there instead or STR maybe but not sure if that'd be better, it feels like my attack is low a lot of the time.

    I could also use advice on how to piece together a M.Kris set, I have an NQ HP shield, the Janyhoohoo or w/e, working on DRG sub.

    GSword is pretty similar, Hollow instead of Abyssal, Martial Sword/Sword strap, acc gear scales out less due to lower base.

    Pointers welcome, I'm quitting in June so don't bother w/ Rajas'ing me lol.

    Edit: forgot these 2, Dread Spikes and Drain/Aspir, earring in drains is that new one from VNM, but I don't think it actually does anything

    http://slashangry.net/callisto/drkgear2.jpg

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    Clearly the lack of a Rajas is causing the dynamis mobs to refuse to get hit by a job with an inferior DD ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    This may be what does it, usually on DRK I cast drains/absorbs during PD, but on WAR I typically stay engaged. I'll try to start turning away on PD and see how that changes things.
    .
    Don't need. With K parser you can select which mobs you want to analyze your damage on. So just take an existing parse and exclude THF mobs (and maybe ninjas) and you are done. 405 acc is totally unrealistic. I can see 370 acc being needed for the first pulls and not more than 390 for the last ones.

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    lol I know, saving for those now, only have 900kish at the moment

  19. #999
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    I just unlocked KJ a couple of days ago, and I have no idea how to gear for it.

    was looking at using this:
    http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l11/KingKonda/KJ.jpg

    besides N.head, am I going about this in the right way?

  20. #1000
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    Haub is better? man... N.bod seems to have rly been a waste of gil. I got it for thf so had Acc on body for WS then got Ant. harness the next day. :/


    I prob should have mentioned, I swap to alkys/foragers/warwolf when Agg is up. Bomb core ill look into if I can make some invo space lol

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