Tanaka P talks beta test in Famitsu

[Eaglestrike]

...maybe.

Most in-game voicechat I've ever seen is generally low quality and incredibly irritating to manage aside from just turning it all off.

WOW's voicechat is pointless as vent is far superior; Steam voicechat is...okay, but still vent seems to be much better quality; Call of Duty's voicechat is fucking horrendous and you can't shut it off except to mute everyone.

I'm pretty sure WoW's voicechat doesn't even exist anymore. If it does I'm not sure where it was moved to, maybe my UI removes whatever button opens it up. But yeah, Vent was better than Blizzard's implementation and that's pretty surprising. Blizzard is normally amazing at taking other things and making it better.

[Talka]

Vent is an unusually good chat program, though.

As far as the beta "tidbits" (not like there was much said anyway), my only hope is that they handle this about as well as Global Agenda has - their servers did go down after release, but they kept a live twitter feed explaining their issues and they had them resolved quickly.
They're gonna be problem-free pretty soon and it's been less than a week since release.

I won't expect Beta servers or release times to be perfect because something HAS to go wrong. XD

[Kawfee]

I'm pretty sure WoW's voicechat doesn't even exist anymore. If it does I'm not sure where it was moved to, maybe my UI removes whatever button opens it up. But yeah, Vent was better than Blizzard's implementation and that's pretty surprising. Blizzard is normally amazing at taking other things and making it better.

It would be nice if they had a linkshell-level voicechat set up that could be moderated by sackholders or even allow people to be designated as moderators without sackholder abilities (like giving pearls), but only if it maintained the audio fidelity level of something like skype or vent.

Then if there was a feature to temporarily invite alliance members or party members, that would be a useful system that I may not absolutely loath, as I do in most other games that have tried it.

[Valkrish]

Please kindly die.


Glad to hear they're trying to avoid the mistakes a lot of companies have been coming across with beta's and such. Here's hoping for a new MMO that isn't trash.

This quote is something that I can agree with and nod enthusiastically to.

All we can do is hope that it isn't trash =)

[Chun Liroy]

...maybe.

Most in-game voicechat I've ever seen is generally low quality and incredibly irritating to manage aside from just turning it all off.

WOW's voicechat is pointless as vent is far superior; Steam voicechat is...okay, but still vent seems to be much better quality; Call of Duty's voicechat is fucking horrendous and you can't shut it off except to mute everyone.

True, and using vent wouldn't be all that big of a deal, considering my comp is right next to my TV in my dorm lol, but it would be nice for people that can't do that on consoles have a way to communicate as well.

[Lucavi]

I'm suprised they're actively trying to incorporate a form of voice communication in a game that will span not only three separate platforms, but potentially dozens of languages.

WoW was one thing, with its regional servers and a basic expectation that the sweeping majority of people you'd be playing with would speak the same language, but this will be very, -very- interesting if SE actually manages to make it work.

I wonder what the sheepish and shy japanese that love to JP-ONRY will do when they actually hear the voices of "stupid American Gaijin!" coming through their speakers.

[Cureslime]

I'm suprised they're actively trying to incorporate a form of voice communication in a game that will span not only three separate platforms, but potentially dozens of languages.

WoW was one thing, with its regional servers and a basic expectation that the sweeping majority of people you'd be playing with would speak the same language, but this will be very, -very- interesting if SE actually manages to make it work.

I wonder what the sheepish and shy japanese that love to JP-ONRY will do when they actually hear the voices of "stupid American Gaijin!" coming through their speakers.

They'll either turn off voice chat or kick you and shout LEAVE ENGLISH!! GO AWAY!! RUIN EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH!! JUST LIKE PRESIDENT!! NO GOOD!! JAPANESE BOARD FOR OUR PEOPLES!

I'm interested to see whether they come up with anything at all or they just scrap it entirely.

[Lucavi]

I'd rather them fix known issues than work on voice chat. That is a truly ambitious project, and one that really isn't needed given how well Vent already works.

Most people would still use Vent anyway, if for nothing else but to be able to move in and out of separated channels at their leisure.

[McGoonagle]

I'd rather them fix known issues than work on voice chat. That is a truly ambitious project, and one that really isn't needed given how well Vent already works.

Most people would still use Vent anyway, if for nothing else but to be able to move in and out of separated channels at their leisure.

I'll second that.

[fussel]

If they pull an auto translation feature for voice chat, I'd be truly amazed.

[Correction]

You people are fucking retarded. "We have many other communications issues to confront, such as communities being splintered by system, player harassment and translation features." is not implying "We're looking at real-time machine voice translation of spoken language, a billion-dollar idea."

[Eaglestrike]

You people are fucking retarded. "We have many other communications issues to confront, such as communities being splintered by system, player harassment and translation features." is not implying "We're looking at real-time machine voice translation of spoken language, a billion-dollar idea."

Surely something people believe SE capable of doing, though.

[Lurking Badger]

It doesn't have to be that advanced, it could be a recorded voice saying "Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass" in japanese over the voice chat if you tell it to. (Fail to see the point though)

[Spliffy]

Well xbox has party chat, idk about ps3 though.

[Darus Grey]

You people are fucking retarded. "We have many other communications issues to confront, such as communities being splintered by system, player harassment and translation features." is not implying "We're looking at real-time machine voice translation of spoken language, a billion-dollar idea."

You realize we already have shit like that developed? It's not an issue of development or computational power, it's that in reality it has little to no practical value, which is why very little money gets funneled into it these days. It's a project comp.ling grad students take on as projects these days, hardly a billion dollar idea.

Granted it's basically nothing but google translate levels of accuracy in voice form, but you're going to need a hell of a lot more then a billion dollars to solve meaning issues.

tl;dr
Semantics.

[Valkrish]

You realize we already have shit like that developed? It's not an issue of development or computational power, it's that in reality it has little to no practical value, which is why very little money gets funneled into it these days. It's a project comp.ling grad students take on as projects these days, hardly a billion dollar idea.

Granted it's basically nothing but google translate levels of accuracy in voice form, but you're going to need a hell of a lot more then a billion dollars to solve meaning issues.

tl;dr
Semantics.

Make Fail

[LinktheDeme]

ps3 you cant even audio chat or at least im doing it wrong without a video cam or something. I have a blue tooth and everytime i try to do an audio chat forces it to be audio and video <,<

[Stromgarde]

From the checking around I've done, it looks like there's no dashboard-supported party chat for the PS3, unlike what I had assumed. Which is a shame, since we'll probably have to go back to the 'laptop for vent only' kludge again. What would be really nice would be if they made an arrangement with Ventrilo's devs to integrate it into the FFXIV UI.

[Vacht]

Short and thorough beta > long and dragged out beta, so plenty of time. I'd much rather see all content brand new then play it religiously for 3 weeks. Betas are about bugs and giving constructive gameplay and mechanic feedback, not playing the game. Wish more people would understand that.

lol, you whine a lot.

[sephir]

I would rather they do a long thorough beta than do a short incomplete one. I have faith that they learned some important lessons from XI and will try to incorporate those into the making of XIV. Of course, there is a lot that is still screwed up about XI, and I don't think it will be fixed in any time frame.