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  1. #381
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    I like SMN for campaign >.>

  2. #382
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    Khimaira?

  3. #383
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredjanx View Post
    newer shells use SMNs for JoFaith and Odin
    <.<
    That's a shame.

  4. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunitsoldier View Post
    Great keep derailing this thread with useless arguements about shit. Good job in making 75% of Media threads about personal disputes and useless discussions, you all suck.

    Good thing I'm not a mod or heads would roll pretty fast with shit like this.
    Well. With this much SMN talk, you'd think this would get flooded with gimp SMNs, since there is a treasure trove of those =P.

  5. #385
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    What is wrong with SMN on odin, they do very nice.

  6. #386

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    Avatars help absorb some aoes which isn't bad ^^;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    What is wrong with SMN on odin, they do very nice.
    fixed my OP

  8. #388
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    Pssht, if the SMN's any good they'll have Merited 75BPs, at least 1 to Max and some MAB Merits.

    those 75BP's are not to be underestimated, they may not pull 3k on some nice Magic Bursts, biggest upside is they're disposable, and near hateless in their Damage!

    Though its all moot with a exceptional group, as BLMs won't be at risk to die so often if they can do their jobs right, but at the same time SMN isn't out for the count, even if its just a Shiva/Diabolos Favor whore =p!

  9. #389
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredjanx View Post
    and (to a lesser extent) Jailer of Faith
    Just asking because you said newer shells use them on Odin. That to me implied they aren't much good and my shell isn't new and we use them a lot on Odin.

  10. #390
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Just asking because you said newer shells use them on Odin. That to me implied they aren't much good and my shell isn't new and we use them a lot on Odin.
    Oh, I meant to say that SMN wasn't only useful for AF burns
    read my OP

  11. #391
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    Quote Originally Posted by terranova View Post
    Well. With this much SMN talk, you'd think this would get flooded with gimp SMNs, since there is a treasure trove of those =P.
    ^^ this, really. Too many SMNs don't know what a BP set is, thanks to the last update, you can start one at 33.
    And Seveneyes/Healing Torque/Zenith Mitts really is wtf.

  12. #392
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    http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3041/gimpmnk.jpg

    As if to prove that only gimps get good augments, that Cerberus Mantle has accuracy+5 on it (I think I remember seeing it in an augment thread). This guy "can't get" anything better than relic hands, despite that N Kote is down to 300k on Remora. Also that's an Orochi Nodowa (dex+1 augment), Assailant's Ring (can't augment anyway) and Rasetsu Hakama (no augment). He also has Hermes' Sandals for some unfathomable, possibly Bonanza-related reason.

  13. #393
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    Linkshell name looks so familiar.. what server you on?

  14. #394
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    Quote Originally Posted by Despain View Post
    Linkshell name looks so familiar.. what server you on?
    FFXI Server: Remora

  15. #395
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    Says Remora all over the place, dang it.
    Melee Gloves aren't bad though. I think the 2 attack isn't worth paying for, no matter how much money you got. I get what you mean by "can't get" though. He's obviously just lost!
    Still gimp as fudge though.

  16. #396
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    That's a shame.
    if you really think smn is a subpar DD on everything, you should consider running a few #s on damage per second for varying things vs 5/5 wind blade with proper gear

    1100/45 seconds with no hate generated and healing ability is pretty boss on tougher things

  17. #397
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    Khim, Tiamat, and Odin are all pretty awesome SMN fights.

  18. #398
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Pssht, if the SMN's any good they'll have Merited 75BPs, at least 1 to Max and some MAB Merits.

    those 75BP's are not to be underestimated, they may not pull 3k on some nice Magic Bursts, biggest upside is they're disposable, and near hateless in their Damage!
    ^ this

    Before I finished Blm I played 75 Smn a lot. 5/5 Wind Blade, Pet: MAB+ augmented Redingote (swapped in for BP only), 8/8 Smn Magic, 5/5 Pet: MAB Merits, Relic hands, some other crap...

    I did some nice damage solo and on MB's. The fact that it was near-hate free was awesome. If my calculations were right, Garuda would only need three connected melee hits to push her over the bonus for 200 TP. I would just pop her out, hit Hastega for the melee in range, get her three hits and pop Wind Blade.


    But then I finished and merited Blm and haven't touched Smn much in 8 months or so. I have been meaning to pick it back up and take it out.

  19. #399
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narol View Post
    As if to prove that only gimps get good augments, that Cerberus Mantle has accuracy+5 on it (I think I remember seeing it in an augment thread). This guy "can't get" anything better than relic hands, despite that N Kote is down to 300k on Remora.
    The Augment makes me rage.

    @Fenux: :3 no offense to you but kinda made me smile when you commented on the placing of remora everywhere then misread his post. Honest mistake though, I never really think of N kote either, I just assume okote lol.

    @Thorny: That would mean I would have to find a smn who knows what he's doing. I can barely find people that play easy jobs to gear that know what they're doing. Passs. I never said everything either; Smn is awesome for temp :3

  20. #400
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargentRemora View Post
    ^^ this, really. Too many SMNs don't know what a BP set is, thanks to the last update, you can start one at 33.
    And Seveneyes/Healing Torque/Zenith Mitts really is wtf.
    Bp cap is 45 seconds.

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