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**Odog** · 2010-03-01 21:25

You can fight an Ixion and take 0 damage from a charge move, rampant stance, kicks, ect sure... Ixion turning at you still gives you time to change directions anyway if you are running in 3rd person to see it turn. Just like you were asking me before if I have EVER got hit by spear though and ofc the answer is yes. Anyone that fights that shit enough is going to have times where u get bound/grav and dont get a fast enough erase and get kicked in the chops or hit with a spear/zeus. If it happens ALL the time there is a problem for sure.

**noodles355** · 2010-03-01 21:30

Originally Posted by Cairthenn

1.) What's the point of all that excessive HP gear, period? There is none. Moving on.

What is cure cheat.

I also love loling at the "haut is shit" bandwagon. Yeah, against stuff you atonement it is, sure. And for things you don't? Oh, those must not exist.

What's wrong with Idling in HP gear if you're not engaged? What else are you gonna put there? You'll have shadows up, so pdt/mdt isn't needed, you're not meleeing or casting, so haste isn't either, what's left? Enmity? To slow decay when shadows are absorbing things?

**Odog** · 2010-03-01 21:37

Originally Posted by noodles355

What is cure cheat.

I also love loling at the "haut is shit" bandwagon. Yeah, against stuff you atonement it is, sure. And for things you don't? Oh, those must not exist.

What's wrong with Idling in HP gear if you're not engaged? What else are you gonna put there? You'll have shadows up, so pdt/mdt isn't needed, you're not meleeing or casting, so haste isn't either, what's left? Enmity? To slow decay when shadows are absorbing things?

People just wanna troll man. To add to what you said, I typically idle in excessive HP gear set because Cerberus is a competitive server and many times I might claim something like Tiamat/Khim/Cerb with next to no support and have to be self sufficient while the LS gathers. These days it is less racing and more face camping but not long ago it was always a race or solo/low man camping.

**Karbuncle** · 2010-03-01 22:17

Originally Posted by noodles355

What is cure cheat.

I also love loling at the "haut is shit" bandwagon. Yeah, against stuff you atonement it is, sure. And for things you don't? Oh, those must not exist.

Off the top of your head name a list of enemies you'd fight where you would be using Sword/Shield and not meleeing.

I specifically mention sword and shield cause kited fights you'd be better off with Iron Ram Lance w/ the Enmity+ Grip (DMG taken -10%)

Then off the top of your head name every single fight we're you'll be meleeing and using Atonement.

You're right Haute has its situations, But i can't think of very many situations where you'd be face-to-face with a mob (thus Sword/Shield combo best) and unable to melee. The Situations are there, but its lolhaute cause people seem to be willing to pay 20mil for it and its situations are so dangerously limited its nearly not worth the inv space cause there's plenty of better and easily obtainable swords out there.

**Cairthenn** · 2010-03-01 22:21

Originally Posted by noodles355

What is cure cheat.

I also love loling at the "haut is shit" bandwagon. Yeah, against stuff you atonement it is, sure. And for things you don't? Oh, those must not exist.

What's wrong with Idling in HP gear if you're not engaged? What else are you gonna put there? You'll have shadows up, so pdt/mdt isn't needed, you're not meleeing or casting, so haste isn't either, what's left? Enmity? To slow decay when shadows are absorbing things?

Putting HP down first and not having as much HP up for a cure swap is going to allow to have a lot more enmity on your cast. If you have the MP to do it, you probably aren't in danger anyways, and lowing your HP by ~200 for about 2 seconds should be no consequence anyways. Anything else?

Sure, Idle in excess HP gear that way as soon as you aren't hit by an attack you have to change your gear anyways. (That's using your logic, I'm being generous in attacking this.)

**Kidnoftle** · 2010-03-01 22:25

Originally Posted by Derock

The reasoning behind hating Haute is, if you're not using Atonement, you should be on RDM.

derka derka

Because perfect job set ups are always available and everyone has every 75. K got it.

And to contribute: I agree, Idling in hp is kinda dumb. However, I do have gigant mantle in my idle macro since I don't have shadow mantle x.x
Obv use resentment when applicable.

**Karbuncle** · 2010-03-01 22:26

Originally Posted by Kidnoftle

Because perfect job set ups are always available and everyone has every 75. K got it.

Almost positive he was being sarcastic.

**Kidnoftle** · 2010-03-01 22:33

Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Almost positive he was being sarcastic.

Should read his posts more often then

**Cairthenn** · 2010-03-01 22:46

Originally Posted by Kidnoftle

Should read his posts more often then

Almost positive he's always being sarcastic*.

**noodles355** · 2010-03-01 23:12

Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Off the top of your head name a list of enemies you'd fight where you would be using Sword/Shield and not meleeing.

I specifically mention sword and shield cause kited fights you'd be better off with Iron Ram Lance w/ the Enmity+ Grip (DMG taken -10%)

Then off the top of your head name every single fight we're you'll be meleeing and using Atonement.

Things you want to t2t without giving TP. I hope I don't need to list a load of examples.

**noodles355** · 2010-03-01 23:17

Originally Posted by Cairthenn

Putting HP down first and not having as much HP up for a cure swap is going to allow to have a lot more enmity on your cast. If you have the MP to do it, you probably aren't in danger anyways, and lowing your HP by ~200 for about 2 seconds should be no consequence anyways. Anything else?

You're arguing that "lowering your HP from idle by 200 for cure cheat" is better than "raising your HP from idle by 200 for cure cheat".

Lol. I know you have this cute little hatred of me that forces you to argue everything I ever post, but I think it would benefit everyone if you just used more commen sense.

Whether you raise your HP by more after, or lower it by more befor, the same Cure amount is the same cure amount.

**Karbuncle** · 2010-03-01 23:18

Originally Posted by noodles355

Things you want to t2t without giving TP. I hope I don't need to list a load of examples.

You don't need to list them cause if you did in your head you'd realize the ratio is basically 5 to 1 in favor of Joyeuse, which is why its usually frowned upon when someone say, fulltimes Haute for just about everything cause its "oo shiny".

**Cairthenn** · 2010-03-01 23:18

Originally Posted by noodles355

You're arguing that "lowering your HP from idle by 200 for cure cheat" is better than "raising your HP from idle by 200 for cure cheat".

Lol. I know you have this cute little hatred of me that forces you to argue everything I ever post, but I think it would benefit everyone if you just used more commen sense.

Whether you raise your HP by more after, or lower it by more befor, the same Cure amount is the same cure amount.

Did you not see my reasoning for it? You gain more Enmity on your cure cast, it does more for you. Why do you bother arguing if you're always wrong and ignore half the stuff I say?

But yeah, obviously I'm not using "commen sense".

**noodles355** · 2010-03-01 23:32

Originally Posted by Karbuncle

You don't need to list them cause if you did in your head you'd realize the ratio is basically 5 to 1 in favor of Joyeuse, which is why its usually frowned upon when someone say, fulltimes Haute for just about everything cause its "oo shiny".

I'm sorry what? I don't believe I ever argued for using Haut the majority of the time, or that it was omgwtfawesum. I was simply arguing against the "haut is shit" bandwagon that love to suggest it's a PoS that is completely uesless.

@Cairth:
I must not understand enmity very well, I wasn't away curing 200HP from 800-1000 generated more hate than curing 200HP from 900-1100HP?

**Karbuncle** · 2010-03-01 23:35

Originally Posted by noodles355

I'm sorry what? I don't believe I ever argued for using Haut the majority of the time, or that it was omgwtfawesum. I was simply arguing against the "haut is shit" bandwagon that love to suggest it's a PoS that is completely uesless.

@Cairth:
I must not understand enmity very well, I wasn't away curing 200HP from 800-1000 generated more hate than curing 200HP from 900-1100HP?

The Fulltiming thing was completely Hypothetical i never even thought you had a 75PLD.

its not completely useless, i'll agree, just 99.39% so.

**Cairthenn** · 2010-03-01 23:40

Originally Posted by noodles355

I'm sorry what? I don't believe I ever argued for using Haut the majority of the time, or that it was omgwtfawesum. I was simply arguing against the "haut is shit" bandwagon that love to suggest it's a PoS that is completely uesless.

@Cairth:
I must not understand enmity very well, I wasn't away curing 200HP from 800-1000 generated more hate than curing 200HP from 900-1100HP?

Oh my god, seriously? Drop 200 HP, gain 200, fill the rest with Enmity gear (you should pretty much be able to used capped Enmity gear on the cure, counting shared Enmity and HP gear). You're stating that someone should use 400 HP+ gear, they then lose Enmity in several slots. Which cure is going to pull more hate?

**Clerix** · 2010-03-01 23:50

Congrats, Odogg. Well deserved.

Also,

Spoiler: show

**Karbuncle** · 2010-03-01 23:52

Originally Posted by Clerix

Congrats, Odogg. Well deserved.

Also,

Spoiler: show

Seriously had to be done, even mice notice paterns. Furthermore all i'm doing is debating the fact Haute has very limited uses and general not worth the effort, so NAH

Edit: WANT SUM DROPS?

I got Shaman's Cloak, Save the Queen, And Loxleys bow today while only wanting Shaman's Cloak.

No Screenshots ftw but heres a shiny picture of the actualy NMS, and some Goblin NM that drops a staff who AINT DROP SHIT i killed in like 2008

Spoiler: show

**Clerix** · 2010-03-01 23:55

Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Spoiler: show

Seriously had to be done, even mice notice paterns. Furthermore all i'm doing is debating the fact Haute has very limited uses and general not worth the effort, so NAH

Yes, but the point where min/maxing is in every fucking thread gets annoying. He posted a single screenshot of his dring. He did not ask for anyone to critique his gear, he just posted the drop. I can understand people criticizing gear in the gear thread/gimp thread/augment thread, but in the drop thread? seriously? It is incredibly annoying.

**Cairthenn** · 2010-03-01 23:58

Originally Posted by Clerix

Yes, but the point where min/maxing is in every fucking thread gets annoying. He posted a single screenshot of his dring. He did not ask for anyone to critique his gear, he just posted the drop. I can understand people criticizing gear in the gear thread/gimp thread/augment thread, but in the drop thread? seriously? It is incredibly annoying.

He posted his gear with the drop, didn't he?

Practically asking for it.

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