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  1. #981
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Can it one shot me in ~35% PDT with hp food?
    Yes -> Tank on RDM.
    No -> Continue Reading.
    Does it resist dread spikes?
    Yes -> Continue Reading.
    No -> Tank on DRK. Use dread spikes to DD in PDT set when your VE/CE are capped. Use souleater as MP/situation permits.
    Does it resist souleater, does souleater pose a threat to your ability to stay alive, or do you really really not want it to get tp?
    Yes -> Continue Reading.
    No -> Tank on DRK. Use dread spikes if not fully resisted as a defensive ability. Use souleater when MP/situation permit.
    Do you really really not want it to get tp?
    Yes -> Tank on RDM.
    No -> Continue Reading.
    Does it have a level correction that permits a WAR to DD effectively with Minx2 Marchx2 or Marchx2 Chaos/Hunters?
    Yes -> Tank on WAR.
    No -> Continue Reading.
    Does it have anything that significantly reduces physical damage in addition to the pdif/level issue?
    Yes -> Continue Reading.
    No -> Tank on SAM.
    Does it take full magic damage during the instance physical damage is reduced?
    Yes -> Continue Reading.
    No -> Tank on RDM.
    Can you keep a decent tp rate despite the physical resistance?
    Yes -> Congratulations, you're fighting Mahjlaef the Paintorn. As T3 ZNM in the worst path for profit is not popular barring PW or Mythic Weapons, this is a rare occurance. Tank on PLD.
    No -> Tank on RDM.
    Can probably toss around DRG tank somewhere in there, on Suzaku or something.

  2. #982
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    "are you entirely retarded" needs a question mark after it.

    Also, I thought atonement did damage? Sure, not as much as a war/sam/drk, but apart from one Apoc Drk in my LS, I don't know Any Sam/War/Drks who have tanking gear or hell, even want to tank.

    Maybe your chart would be better for an ideal enviroment where everything is perfect and everyone has perfect jobs, as opposed to actual plausible situations for 90% of the playerbase and about 60% of BG.

    Atonement needs to be capitalized, bro.

  3. #983
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    Do you suck?
    If yes quit FFXI.
    If no, tank with whatever the fuck you want.

    My chart's better.
    I approve of this chart lol

  4. #984
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Tanking gear on SAM or WAR is your TP gear. If you don't have a basic ohshit build, gtfo. If your linkshell doesn't have 2(insert preferred number of tanks) DD that care enough to have PDT and MDT sets, /breaklinkshell.


    BG as a population isn't that far ahead of the curve, sure most of the top notch players are here, but there are also idiots like Wakabo all over dragging it down.
    True, I wasn't really thinking when I said "taning gear". I put that down to being half asleep.
    But doesn't change the fact I don't think any of our Sam/War/Drks want to tank really lol.

    Edit:
    I wonder if Drg could put out enough constant damage to maintain hate, you'd lose High Jump, and to go /Nin you'd also lose a 6hit. Suppose you could use Love Halberd to keep your WS frequency high, but would need solid buffs to make it to good damage. If it's a mob Drg could tank, you could probably just TP burn it.

  5. #985
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    Why the fuck not? I have PDT and MDT gear for SAM and DRK and I love to put it to use. Tanked Ultima on DRK yesterday, fun fight.

  6. #986
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    Oh my bad bro, I didn't realise every other sam/drk felt the same way as you.

  7. #987
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    They should.

  8. #988
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Oh my bad bro, I didn't realise every other sam/drk felt the same way as you.
    Why do you continue posting This isn't 2005 anymore

  9. #989
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    Apparently it's 355.

  10. #990
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    Why the fuck not? I have PDT and MDT gear for SAM and DRK and I love to put it to use. Tanked Ultima on DRK yesterday, fun fight.
    To be fair you only tanked it about 15% of the time.

  11. #991
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    Much less actually but Throny used SE for damage 2-3 times and when he told me he was doing that I only had the chance to do it once. My own DRK will be a more sophisticated tank though (without -4 enmity merits :3)

  12. #992
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    Fenrir

    Galkas are terrible, always.

  13. #993
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhiGaruda View Post
    Why do you continue posting This isn't 2005 anymore
    What? Just because it's 2010, doesn't change the fact that most players who leveled a DD like Drk/Sam/War don't want to tank.

  14. #994
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    This morning amidst a sea of JPs:

    http://files1.guildlaunch.net/guild/...rop8891Mid.png

    Still shaking.... makes me about 1/25

  15. #995
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    This one time, in band camp, I tanked Suzaku with double marches on RNG

  16. #996
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    Suzaku's hard. Very hard.

  17. #997
    29 in magical dog years
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    Fuck, I know, I had to swing my staff really fast to keep hate

  18. #998
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadida View Post
    This morning amidst a sea of JPs:

    Still shaking.... makes me about 1/25
    Haha, congrats. I know EXACTLY how you feel there and it's a wonderful feeling!

  19. #999
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    Worse than her at uno

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    Suzaku isn't as hard as Faust though. But don't worry. We'll get that shit.

  20. #1000
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    lol'd at calling selling hauteclaires silly. Also, as far as NIN (and only NIN) is concerned kikoku arguably prevents more damage taken than dring (subtle blow aftermath YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH)

    lol even more at saying bravura is worthless.

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