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  1. #1361
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    dreadstorm makes me angry at life lol

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    I usually save rampart for dreadstorm, tourb if the wings aren't down pisses me off more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mocker View Post
    We have 3 buyers lined up and we havent seen a sword in the last 20 kills. ; ;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iremire View Post
    We have 3 buyers lined up and we havent seen a sword in the last 20 kills. ; ;
    other than stoli stealing my post like a dick, and not waking me up after that bitch slept thru a free sw, and aspid xD. oh well ill have to deal with camping gil only not both parts of this pay out. We have 2 more making offers for hautes atm lol. I <3 my server

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    wow i hate to quote pchan here but suck less

    if your plds arent engaged at khim you suck. period.
    Would you have PLDs engaged if you were lowmanning it with <6 people? You can't make a blanket statement here; so much depends on your party setup and such. In the event that you fight it while not engaged (which is perfectly fine depending on situation), this is one of the rare occasions where Hauteclaire is actually useful.

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    If you were lowmanning it with ~6 people I would probably be engaged as long as MP wasn't an issue. You can disengage when shit goes down hill you know. I'd say being engaged with higher numbers is worse. Why do shitty 300 damage atonements feeding uneccisary tp when you have a few samurai's knocking out higher damage by tping on it?

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    I agree with the latter point, which gives Haute some small amount of value. You can of course disengage if shit hits the fan, but when lowman it then becomes a question of (assuming you don't want to lose TP), is the damage you gain worth the increased risk? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. If you don't care about losing TP then you of course get the best of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    Would you have PLDs engaged if you were lowmanning it with <6 people? You can't make a blanket statement here; so much depends on your party setup and such. In the event that you fight it while not engaged (which is perfectly fine depending on situation), this is one of the rare occasions where Hauteclaire is actually useful.
    I'm sure if he was low-manning it, PLD would be engaged. Excellence, Excalibur, etc. You guys should know the routine by now.

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    Well, I was assuming nonrelic <_< mainly just saying that Joyeuse might not always be a good idea if lowmanning. Excal, go for it!

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    Just because you're engaged doesn't necessarily even mean you have to be using Joyeuse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11's sig View Post
    Sirrobin, Excellence - Hades.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    Well, I was assuming nonrelic <_<
    This was your 1st mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    Just because you're engaged doesn't necessarily even mean you have to be using Joyeuse...
    That's true, giving more validity to Hauteclaire which is what I am mainly arguing: that it is fairly useful on Khimaira.

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    yea we killed khim with 5 and a duald blm + thf or some shit with blm not rly doing anything a while back. excal pld kills it in like 45 min solo lol

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    But in the situation where you have someone who only has Paladin, has a Hauteclaire as well as other standard swords and who has to tank it lowman where TP is a concern, Hauteclaire is a valid option. That's all I'm arguing... not that it's the best option, not that it's the perfect option with the best setup, just that it is a valid option and actually going to be useful unlike most fights in the game.

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    When we have to start making up hypothetical situations that only stem from obscure scenarios that only occur when your linkshell is either asleep or you have a terrible support team i think we can just agree the weapon is better off sold to people who still think its good ._.

    Though you're right in the above situation.

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    You mean long window HNM pop when people are awake?!

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    Or people could stop being dipshits who think xxx sub xxx is the only valid tank. Anything can tank and do it efficiently. Suck less.

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    Still not seeing how -7% Physical Damage taken is helping you with Shadows up is all I'M SAYIN'

    any support team should be able to handle the "TP spam" of one PLD using a Joyeuse ⌐ ⌐

    I mean ANY support teams!

    Edit: Meh, may as well contribute no?

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    I forgot most of the junk that dropped but i know SMN-1 SCH-1.. Koga Sash/SMN Cape that both dropped cause some incompetent dumbfuck twat decided to afk without the decency to drop their damn Glass.

    Also PLD Cape too... and WHM-1...

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    Have you fought Khim? I don't mean this in a patronising way at all; he just attacks quickly and is difficult to enfeeble, especially lowman. You practically need /blm on BRD to Elegy him and that leaves a large window where it is challenging if you don't have a few BRDs. Takes multiple casts on RDM a large percentage of the time.

    Between Dreadstorm/Tourbillion/etc, you're gonna eat physical damage at some point.

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