Sarah Palin's TelePALMter Handjob at Teabagger Convention 2010

[Kuya]

lol

[Elvis]

I should also state the obvious, but 'barbarian' has a pejorative connotation.

And in the context that you used it, 'raised as' - the meaning is not that these people are 'without pity or merciless' but rather, inferior. Sub-human. The definition matters of course, but you did not apply the word in an antiseptic manner.

I am - as well as anyone else with common sense - looking at the context.

One only need look at your posting history to see how you feel about Muslims (not the radicals, but all Muslims). And of course, your argument style in general.

If you're trying to pose as some kind of realist, you're doing a horrible job at it.

You came here thinking no one would pay attention to the stupid shit you've been saying.

That's called 'point scoring' - it's not sincere debate.

Hence why you never cite sources. Always presenting a false dichotomy of 'us' v. 'them' (LIBURHALZ).

I can call someone mentally handicapped or retarded. The latter has a pejorative connotation.

I can call someone a barbarian, and it would not imply that their entire ethnic group/religion/whatever is full of barbarians.

Like if an Islamic terrorist beheads someone - then I could say that what he did was BARBARIC. That HE was a barbarian.

However, if I said that:

At least the American extremists were raised as more than savages.

Then the context is completely different.

First, you're making a comparison.

Second, you're apologizing for American extremism facetiously - with the words 'at least'.

At least - WHAT? What changes? Who fucking cares how they were raised? Why does that matter? Both are crazy right? There are plenty of well-educated, wealthy people who have done messed up things - right?

There are plenty of well-educated, wealthy people who run large corporations that don't give a shit about human rights and the rule of law and blah blah blah.

I mean, just admit it, Leif. Or slowly back away from the thread and maybe we'll forget.

[Elvis]

This is a somewhat valid response, but what do you honestly expect me to say? I was using colorful language. As it just so happens, according to Democrats, all of the terrorists are in Afghanistan (see: "war of necessity"). As it just so happens, lots of people live in caves.

This is like me saying "the sky is blue" and you replying "yeah, but if you count the clouds, it's white too. And if you count the birds, its gray and black."

That still doesn't change the fact that the sky is still overwhelmingly blue.

[My interjection: NON-FUCKING-SEQUITOR]

Furthermore, I would consider people who fly planes into buildings as "wild, Not civilized; barbaric: merciless; primitive or uncivilized. without restraint or pity", as the dictionary says.

My description was overwhelmingly accurate.

Yea, I consider people who fly planes into buildings barbaric too.

However, I don't talk about two crazy people and say that one of them "at least" was raised better than the other.

That changes the context of how I use the word, 'barbaric' and says something about my intentions.

[Leif]

I should also state the obvious, but 'barbarian' has a pejorative connotation.

......? Wait, so I'm being extra mean for calling someone a barbarian? Did I even call someone a barbarian? I don't remember, but I'm sure it was warranted. I've included the definition a few sections down in this post.

And in the context that you used it, 'raised as' - the meaning is not that these people are 'without pity or merciless' but rather, inferior. Sub-human.

I thought it was quite cleared. Raised as savages. Raised as "wild, Not civilized; barbaric: merciless; primitive or uncivilized. without restraint or pity".

One only need look at your posting history to see how you feel about Muslims (not the radicals, but all Muslims). And of course, your argument style in general.

I love swarthy men! I'm personally not attracted to all the accessories, but they have a lovely skin tone.

You came here thinking no one would pay attention to the stupid shit you've been saying.

I cam here posting... hoping that nobody would pay attention to me. Gee, why don't I just write myself letters?

That's called 'point scoring' - it's not sincere debate.

I thought it was rather funny. I gave up on scoring political points on BG forums a long time ago. Probably after I realized it was more effective to just make people angry and pay $50 to ban me.

Hence why you never cite sources. Always presenting a false dichotomy of 'us' v. 'them' (LIBURHALZ).

I also don't present facts that need sources. As it was pointed out, a dictionary is all you need. Pretend its an opinion column if it helps you sleep at night.

I can call someone mentally handicapped or retarded. The latter has a pejorative connotation.

But unless they are "mentally handicapped" or "retarded", it doesn't make sense.

"Savages" is actually an accurate descriptor.

I can call someone a barbarian, and it would not imply that their entire ethnic group/religion/whatever is full of barbarians.

Correct. It would imply that that person is a barbarian, defined as "a person in a savage, primitive state; uncivilized person." I don't understand the illogical "if you call someone a barbarian, you must be insulting their ethnic group, religion, or social group!".

Like if an Islamic terrorist beheads someone - then I could say that what he did was BARBARIC. That HE was a barbarian.

Correct.

First, you're making a comparison.

Yes, an accurate one, I might add.

Second, you're apologizing for American extremism facetiously - with the words 'at least'.

Absolutely not.

At least - WHAT? What changes? Who fucking cares how they were raised? Why does that matter? Both are crazy right? There are plenty of well-educated, wealthy people who have done messed up things - right?

Yet Muslim extremism can be traced back to a jihadi culture. "Kill the abortion doctor!" cannot. That's just a crazy belief, as evidenced by the fact that there are more killings in America for reasons like "he was wearing green shoes" than "because he was an abortion doctor".

To answer your first question directly. At least abortion doctor-killers are not spawned from a similar culture like the dominant pro-jihadi culture that constantly produces more terrorists.

There are plenty of well-educated, wealthy people who run large corporations that don't give a shit about human rights and the rule of law and blah blah blah.

Amazingly, they still follow the rule of law or else they get put in prison. So I guess whether or not they care is irrelevant. We've created an incentive not to go on killing sprees.

Also, "human rights" (along with its evil twin sister "social justice") is just code for communism. I don't support the creation of entitlements.

I mean, just admit it, Leif. Or slowly back away from the thread and maybe we'll forget.

Hah.