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    I think i need to spend that 2 dollars and get the sarcasm punctuation mark.

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    all military people are incapable parents, they should all just have abortions

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    Quote Originally Posted by willriker View Post
    I think i need to spend that 2 dollars and get the sarcasm punctuation mark.
    It is hard to tell for something like this. I would not be surprised if someone read your post and nodded in agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobus View Post
    insert that pic of the child cowering in fear talking about failing as a parent.
    http://img.moronail.net/img/5/5/2355.jpg

    ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    It is hard to tell for something like this. I would not be surprised if someone read your post and nodded in agreement.
    yeah, youre right. I could have done a better job lol

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    I find it funny that I'm hearing people get outraged over this while saying that waterboarding "suspected terrorists" is perfectly OK in the same sentence and they fail to see any similarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    I find it funny that I'm hearing people get outraged over this while saying that waterboarding "suspected terrorists" is perfectly OK in the same sentence and they fail to see any similarity.
    Between a child and a suspected terrorist?

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    What if that child was suspected of terrorism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    What if that child was suspected of terrorism?
    Maybe he thought she terrorized the alphabet... torture would have been warranted.

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    torture

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    bet if this had been a dog or a cat...

    I fucking love BG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Despain View Post
    bet if this had been a dog or a cat...

    I fucking love BG.
    Not even the soldiers who aggressively interrogated suspected terrorists at Guantanamo would do that to a kitten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willriker View Post
    >.> waterboarding is not torture.

    Come back when you find a child whos been tortured and well talk.
    Try laying down face up and tied with a bag full of tiny holes on your head. Then have a dude pour a bucket of water down to your face and come back to tell us if it was torturing enough for ya.

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    I suppose it all depends on what torture is. We can assume that the common sense definition is the infliction of any unpleasant experience meant to elicit cooperation, but just how unpleasant does it have to be to be considered reprehensible? Playing Chocolate Rain on infinite loop? Cutting off their balls? Or is it merely the intent, the fact that someone would specifically do something for no other purpose than to make someone miserable, no matter how bad it really is?

    I think, however, the "waterboarding is not torture" crowd is mostly thinking of torture as being methods that cause tangible physical harm. Such as tying someone to a chair and hitting them until they answer your questions. Or cutting off body parts. Or strapping them to a device that stretches them until their limbs pop off.

    Waterboarding causes psychological trauma, but leaves no physical marks. Out of curiosity, is there any research on whether waterboarding victims regain their composure after the... aggressive interrogation technique is finished, or if they come down with some sort of lasting mental illness beyond typical traumatic experience issues (e.g. falling down a well as a kid, or being present at a bank robbery, etc. always leaves a mental mark, but people get by okay).

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    Reciting the alphabet is hard. Just stay cool and keep your head above water and you'll get through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    I suppose it all depends on what torture is. We can assume that the common sense definition is the infliction of any unpleasant experience meant to elicit cooperation, but just how unpleasant does it have to be to be considered reprehensible? Playing Chocolate Rain on infinite loop? Cutting off their balls? Or is it merely the intent, the fact that someone would specifically do something for no other purpose than to make someone miserable, no matter how bad it really is?

    I think, however, the "waterboarding is not torture" crowd is mostly thinking of torture as being methods that cause tangible physical harm. Such as tying someone to a chair and hitting them until they answer your questions. Or cutting off body parts. Or strapping them to a device that stretches them until their limbs pop off.

    Waterboarding causes psychological trauma, but leaves no physical marks. Out of curiosity, is there any research on whether waterboarding victims regain their composure after the... aggressive interrogation technique is finished, or if they come down with some sort of lasting mental illness beyond typical traumatic experience issues (e.g. falling down a well as a kid, or being present at a bank robbery, etc. always leaves a mental mark, but people get by okay).
    Waterboarding causes quite a bit of physical harm.

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    I'm confused.

    Did he dunk her head in the sink full of water or waterboard her?

    Two completely different things and BBC apparently can't differentiate between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    Between a child and a suspected terrorist?
    Between doing an act of torture on another human being and doing the same/sililar things to another.(many of whom didnt even have any evidence against them other than being muslim and male so the "suspected terrorist" part meant more like "if we say they MIGHT be terrorists people will be ok with us grabbing them")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin View Post
    I suppose it all depends on what torture is. We can assume that the common sense definition is the infliction of any unpleasant experience meant to elicit cooperation, but just how unpleasant does it have to be to be considered reprehensible? Playing Chocolate Rain on infinite loop? Cutting off their balls? Or is it merely the intent, the fact that someone would specifically do something for no other purpose than to make someone miserable, no matter how bad it really is?

    I think, however, the "waterboarding is not torture" crowd is mostly thinking of torture as being methods that cause tangible physical harm. Such as tying someone to a chair and hitting them until they answer your questions. Or cutting off body parts. Or strapping them to a device that stretches them until their limbs pop off.

    Waterboarding causes psychological trauma, but leaves no physical marks. Out of curiosity, is there any research on whether waterboarding victims regain their composure after the... aggressive interrogation technique is finished, or if they come down with some sort of lasting mental illness beyond typical traumatic experience issues (e.g. falling down a well as a kid, or being present at a bank robbery, etc. always leaves a mental mark, but people get by okay).
    My investigation for my psychology course revealed that whether they regain their composure or not is dependant on individual differences among other things. For example, political prisoners who are tortured often exit psychology disorder much faster or never experience it at all. Some random person who does not even know why he is being tortured however, is far more likely to never exit a psychological disorder produced by torture. The most common ones i can remember are severe clinical depression and post-traumatic stress disorder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therin View Post
    I'm confused.

    Did he dunk her head in the sink full of water or waterboard her?

    Two completely different things and BBC apparently can't differentiate between the two.
    There are different variations of waterboarding. I am not sure, however, if sticking someone's head into a container filled with water is classified under waterboarding. I do know that they have the same effect.

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