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    Making Pokemon Grim by adding Deaths, Trainer mutilation, killing Pokemon is just the epitome of hilariously misplaced ideas.

    Making Pokemon as the above would be akin to giving Dora the Explorer a Stripper pole, a pimp, and a shotgun... some shit just doesn't work.

    Pokemon has never and will never be a 18+ Mega-violence exploding "Chainsaw Guns" video game, it just does not fit what the entire series and games are about.

    and BRP is actually kinda right, a pokemon MMO, while fun in theory, would be awful, its storyline is much more suited for solo play. With that being said, a 3D Single player Pokemon game for say the PS3, or Xbox would be way more fun, toss in online play for battles or maybe Co-op playing (Cause 2 on 2 battles -do- exist) and THAT will sell like hot cakes.

    Other than that don't care, i'll probably look into the new games, woo.

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    The evolution of that fox thing will be in the new movie set for a July 10th release.

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    Although very few details are currently known about the movie; the legendary beasts and Celebi are confirmed to appear. The trailers indicate Celebi may have a central role in the film
    , much as in Pokémon 4Ever, and it is speculated that time travel may once again be a plot point. Movie taglines hint that Celebi travels back in time to prevent a future incident involving the legendary beasts. In the trailer
    , Ash meets what appears to be a dark version of himself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Making Pokemon Grim by adding Deaths, Trainer mutilation, killing Pokemon is just the epitome of hilariously misplaced ideas.

    Making Pokemon as the above would be akin to giving Dora the Explorer a Stripper pole, a pimp, and a shotgun... some shit just doesn't work.

    Pokemon has never and will never be a 18+ Mega-violence exploding "Chainsaw Guns" video game, it just does not fit what the entire series and games are about.

    and BRP is actually kinda right, a pokemon MMO, while fun in theory, would be awful, its storyline is much more suited for solo play. With that being said, a 3D Single player Pokemon game for say the PS3, or Xbox would be way more fun, toss in online play for battles or maybe Co-op playing (Cause 2 on 2 battles -do- exist) and THAT will sell like hot cakes.

    Other than that don't care, i'll probably look into the new games, woo.
    Kinda missing the point that a darker and edgier pokemon has already been done and is sanctioned by Nintendo. Also, it's always a universe about never-ending battle and genetic purity.


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    As far as it being an MMO, even if it sucked (and it could), that just means that it shouldn't be made, not that it wont.

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    How would it be horrible, all the elements for a MMO are there. There doesn't have to be a central storyline for this type of game, you build your own character and progress through the world. Make it huge, especially with today's technology and have realistic graphics, 3D. Swimming, going underwater, flying etc pokemon everywhere, would be awesome. Gym leader battles ( I guess they would be instanced). Have people be able to group up and only one pokemon out at a time. I still think a skill progression tree would be better than the level up system though. Like was said before, you could still use your favorite pokemon in a competitive setting if you can make them stronger in different ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Pokemon game for say the PS3, or Xbox
    ahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Like was said before, you could still use your favorite pokemon in a competitive setting if you can make them stronger in different ways.
    Balance? In a Pokemon game? You might as well ask them to do all that blood-and-gore crap mentioned above, because they've proven over the generations that only a certain top tier of Pokemon (usually legendaries plus whatever kaiju-like thing they make each generation) should be any good. Really, they're just sticking to the formula as it is, and a "Pokemon Online" would have to play identically to the CRPG games for it to sell well in Japan.

    That said, imagine "Gimp/Confused/WTF Player Thread XVII: But I Just Like Cloyster More Than Kingdra" on some Pokemon equivalent to BG.

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    But I do like Cloyster more than Kingdra That's the one thing that I hate about Pokemon endgame/metagame/whatever. I would rather make teams of Pokemon that I like, instead of just picking top tier pokemon and predetermined move sets that everyone already knows and expects. But it just doesn't really work that way, so meh.

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    Hey I have a Cloyster on my ice themed team. Shit is hardcore. Toxic Spikes, Explosion, Blizzard and something else that I don't remember because it's been ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    ahahahahaha
    I left out Wii, the only system likely to get it, because if it did come out for the Wii it'd just be an excuse to be a useless trash pile of a game with thousands of "wand" gimmicks no one cares about and terribad graphics that look worse than N64

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    Maybe they'll finally ease up on the legendary Pokemon this generation. With Arceus supposedly being the God of all Pokemon there's nothing they can do that's going to surpass that. =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoogleAura View Post
    Maybe they'll finally ease up on the legendary Pokemon this generation. With Arceus supposedly being the God of all Pokemone there's nothing they can do that's going to surpass that. =/
    Jesus of Pokemon? Pokemon Satan? Pokemon Darwin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I left out Wii, the only system likely to get it, because if it did come out for the Wii it'd just be an excuse to be a useless trash pile of a game with thousands of "wand" gimmicks no one cares about and terribad graphics that look worse than N64
    The DS is usually criticized for overuse of the touch screen when its not necessary, just like the Wii is for its motion controls. The Pokemon DS games? Completely free of touch screen uses except for the minigames, so... yeah.

    But more importantly, PS3/360 level graphics would be... terrible for Pokemon. A cell-shaded style would be much better. Sure it'd be cool to see Mewtwo or something with those graphics. But what about Electrode? Jigglypuff? Wobbuffet? Castform? Ditto? There's lots of pokemon that would just be really stupid looking if you gave them the best graphics possible. They'd look really awkward. Pokemon games don't need anything more than the Wii can provide graphics-wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scritch View Post
    The DS is usually criticized for overuse of the touch screen when its not necessary, just like the Wii is for its motion controls. The Pokemon DS games? Completely free of touch screen uses except for the minigames, so... yeah.

    But more importantly, PS3/360 level graphics would be... terrible for Pokemon. A cell-shaded style would be much better. Sure it'd be cool to see Mewtwo or something with those graphics. But what about Electrode? Jigglypuff? Wobbuffet? Castform? Ditto? There's lots of pokemon that would just be really stupid looking if you gave them the best graphics possible. They'd look really awkward. Pokemon games don't need anything more than the Wii can provide graphics-wise.
    There was a game... Ninja Turtles, for the 360 that was cell-shaded and kept to the anime style.

    Xbox isn't a "Graphic" style, its a system, the graphic style depends on the developer! You can have an Xbox game with Cell-Graphics and Anime-look.

    Also Star Ocean... oh and Eternal Sonata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    How would it be horrible, all the elements for a MMO are there.
    You are trapped in your little vision, not even realizing how shitty 50% of that sounds and how repetitive and unnecessary the other half would be. Yeah, taking turns to do battle, sounds like a lot of fun!!! Get those fantasies out of your head so you can think straight.

    EDIT: Care to wonder what it would take for a game to not have the proper "elements" for a MMO? All it needs is a persistent world to be completely adoptable. This is why you will one day see a MMO for everything.

    If Pokemon wants to "mature" then it will do it through its battle system and exploration. In fact it could use to become more childish, as the current plot lines are borderline insane: capturing god pokemon to reform the earth/universe.

    Also, Pokemon(or at least some of them) would look pretty horrible with cel-shaded graphics. Cartoony/unrealistic =/= cel-shading.

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    There are already turn based MMO's out there. I didn't say it had to be turned based though. Legendaries shouldn't be catchable, like how summoners in this game can't use bahamut. Too powerful for regular players. I am obviously not a game developer so I am sure they would be able to balance it out so everyone can enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoogleAura View Post
    Maybe they'll finally ease up on the legendary Pokemon this generation. With Arceus supposedly being the God of all Pokemon there's nothing they can do that's going to surpass that. =/
    Mew in the first gen was supposedly the Pokemon from who all Pokemon originate, yet they still shoehorned Arceus in later just because they wanted something more epic.

    Yeah, taking turns to do battle, sounds like a lot of fun!!!
    Works in link battles.

    Care to wonder what it would take for a game to not have the proper "elements" for a MMO? All it needs is a persistent world to be completely adoptable.
    So you're saying Pokemon is completely adoptable, yet would be shitty because its multiplayer formula has already been proven to work on smaller scales? It's not like you'd be engaging in multi-combat. Hell, it wouldn't even have to be anything fancier than their big online hub thing except that you can walk around in it MMO-style rather than exchange friend codes or whatever you do (I admit I haven't played fourth gen online myself, but it's certainly popular enough).

    Also, Pokemon(or at least some of them) would look pretty horrible with cel-shaded graphics. Cartoony/unrealistic =/= cel-shading.
    Stadium, Coliseum, XD, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narol View Post
    Stadium, Coliseum, XD, etc...
    People think those games are cel-shaded?

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    Yeah. An MMO couldn't have legendary-level Pokemon, and might well have good reason to expand the "checks and balances" of the current games- where you could very well develop as a trainer to compensate for what are lower-tier Pokemon.

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    Just a few ways a Pokemon MMO could go, sorry if others have said this already:

    1) Legendary Pokemon only exist in the game as the equivalent of HNMs. This, to me, would be the most likely scenario.

    2) One Legendary per server. Although it -sounds- cool, you would never be the one. Unless you give up on real life.

    3) Anyone can get Legendary Pokemon. Then, you would be required to have them, unless you want to be gimp. However, everyone would basically be required to choose out of the best 10-15 regardless.

    In any case, I would love to play a Pokemon MMO, or even a 3D adventure. Here's the world map:


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