Want 1Gbps internet at your home/business?

[zoobernut]

Sent in an app, but doubt anything will come to this town.

Same here. I would love to have this service. My cable internet goes out every time it gets windy because the poles/wires in the area are so old.

I hate cable internet so damn much.

[Absolutely Virtue]

you take your internet access for granted, millions of people around your country not to mention others (such as gayboat canada) don't have access to anything better then dialup or shit box wireless based on cell towers.

not to mention that this isn't for "right now" this is testing for future implementation. and if you dont think you wont need faster internet even if you are a bigwig on high speed now then you are selling yourself short and have no foresight.

Slow down honey, I was just asking a question. I live in Washington, I'm inundated by the "Broadband is good for America" lobbying ads, and I appreciate that most people in this country are stuck with shit dialup.

I think the Google idea is awesome, I'm all for it. But my question was more about what types of things people actually plan to do with faster speed. I think it's fair to say BG is made up of fairly advanced internet users, so I was wondering what people plan to do with all that speed.

Don't call me a bigwig again, those are fightin words.

[Vandalhart]

In quebec (i don't know for rest of canada) we don't have unlimited download either

So my internet is this

Extreme High Speed 10mbits/s 100gig/month combined download + upload for 60dollars

the normal people get this High Speed 7.5mbits/s 30gig/month combined download + upload for 45$ per month

So yeah we get fuck up here

You're with Rogers I'm assuming? That's their standard rates for those speeds.

Rogers is a bunch of bastards also because if your streaming for a long time they'll throttle your connection and make it slower.

I'm in the maritimes, but the prices seem the same. Though here, the people with High Speed get 60gigs a month instead of 30. The next step down, which is Hispeed Regular (I think) is 5mbits with a 30gig limit.

I'll check my sources here.


Okay, so here we go:

http://www.rogers.com/web/link/hispe...owDefaultPlans

Ultra Lite - 0.5Mbps / 2GB Usage / $26 a month
Lite - 3Mbps / 25GB Usage / $36 a month
Express - 10Mbps / 60GB Usage / $47 a month
Extreme - 10 Mbps / 95GB Usage / $60 a month
Extreme Plus - 25Mbps / 125GB Usage / $70 a month
Ultimate - 50Mbps / 175 Usage / $100 a month

I beleive they cap overages for bandwith at $25 a month.
The per GB charge varies per internet level.

[shukudai]

@Ratatapa, there are slightly different plans, Videotron has 30Mbps download / 1Mbps upload, 90gig limit for 64.95$ (on a 1 year contract).

Bell is screwing around with their prices as well, they just made a new package that's about 70$, that has 25Mbps download / 7 Mbps upload, but ROFL they capped it at 20gigs, with like 5-10$ a month to buy an extra 30 or something.

On the topic in general, better speeds are good all around, i'm more interested in competition and better prices, because I can already download 1.25gigs in like 15minutes, I don't know how much more of a rush I need to be in, it's the upload that's horrific.

[edit] I don't think he's with Rogers, Rogers doesn't offer highspeed service in Quebec. Here, it's just Bell and Videotron, and all the small ISPs that ride on their networks, who the incumbants try to squeeze out.

[archibaldcrane]

I live in the middle of Los Angeles, and the fastest internet I can get in my building isn't good enough to stream a full netflix movie at the lowest quality without stopping.

Online gaming? Forget about it.

Bring it on google.

[Ratatapa]

@Ratatapa, there are slightly different plans, Videotron has 30Mbps download / 1Mbps upload, 90gig limit for 64.95$ (on a 1 year contract).

Bell is screwing around with their prices as well, they just made a new package that's about 70$, that has 25Mbps download / 7 Mbps upload, but ROFL they capped it at 20gigs, with like 5-10$ a month to buy an extra 30 or something.

On the topic in general, better speeds are good all around, i'm more interested in competition and better prices, because I can already download 1.25gigs in like 15minutes, I don't know how much more of a rush I need to be in, it's the upload that's horrific.

[edit] I don't think he's with Rogers, Rogers doesn't offer highspeed service in Quebec. Here, it's just Bell and Videotron, and all the small ISPs that ride on their networks, who the incumbants try to squeeze out.

I am with Videotron but i know about TGV30 but it'S still fucking pricey compared to other places

[Takedown3]

Slow down honey, I was just asking a question. I live in Washington, I'm inundated by the "Broadband is good for America" lobbying ads, and I appreciate that most people in this country are stuck with shit dialup.

I think the Google idea is awesome, I'm all for it. But my question was more about what types of things people actually plan to do with faster speed. I think it's fair to say BG is made up of fairly advanced internet users, so I was wondering what people plan to do with all that speed.

Don't call me a bigwig again, those are fightin words.

well i retract my bigwig accusation if you retract the honey, those are sexin' words.

as for you question, even tho i do not apply since CAD, i would do many things from not curse photobucket uploads to playing wolfET for the nostalgia. not to mention downloading TV/Movies in less time it takes for me to push out a big shit.

[Vandalhart]

I didn't realise Rogers didn't offer service in Quebec. I knew they did a lot of Ontario, and i know I'm probably going to get shot for this, that made me think they would have service in Quebec as well.

[Darus Grey]

Nominated my community and called the mayor, for what little it's worth.

Though Yahoo recently opened up offices here in Lockport NY, maybe other high tech assets are more likely than I think.

[shukudai]

Yeah, Videotron is pretty ridiculously priced, they do offer the best service though, and you're paying for local people to do their tech/customer service, which I find is a bonus.

I recently switched to Videotron because I wanted the full 1Mbps upload, Bell's DSL is 820, and only get around 600kbps, until this new 7Mbps upload plan, which uses slightly different technology, people are getting 6.5Mbps upload on it, so I have a tech install coming for that next week (needs to install a special outlet, and has to use a new modem as well).

That said, the state of Canadian internet is really bad. I work for a small ISP that provides service in BC, Alberta, Ontario and Quebec, and Bell and Telus (the two DSL incumbants) take every oppourtunity to crush the living shit out of us. All the small ISPs have a horrible time competing on pricing, and lots of insane rules placed on us by the incumbants who's networks we have to use.

[Absolutely Virtue]

Maybe if you spent a little less money giving your citizens healthcare, you'd have a little more money to pay for American-style internet awesomeness. Poor Canadia, where are your priorities?

[Fottiti]

England and the rest of the united kingdom suffers from the same problems as canada by the sounds of it. A lot of rural areas are stuck with overhead phone lines delivering fucking 512kb for £20~ a month if you want unlimited bandwidth (around $35). The problem is that people living out in rural areas are getting terrible speeds but still paying the exact same prices as people getting 4-20mb speeds.

The idea of being able to download a HD movie in less than a day is a dream with no sign of being realised any time soon. Hell, I can't even watch an average 480p youtube video without leaving it to buffer considerably.

[Caiyuo]

For actual reasons why this would be awesome, it'd mostly be media like Netflix and similar things like that, including youtube's HD offerings which are now as high as 1080p. The problem being who the fuck can upload that in a reasonable amount of time, and how practical would it be to watch that? On residential DSL I can't even watch in 480p without pauses.

Aside from that, Google makes the point that web apps and programs alike can take advantage of this if it's available, but as it is it makes sense that there are some limited ways to utilize incredibly high bandwidth because it isn't really practical for consumers currently. I'd love to upload backups off-site ...but that shit just isn't happening right now.

[Zalius]

google is the closest thing to a world overlord you will ever see. i for one, love my google overlord. this browser is dope.

[shukudai]

Part of the issue is that yes, most residential users do not currently have a strong need for higher speed download. I used to deal with customers on the phone all day, i'd get the occasional sign up, asking about various speeds, and I'd ask "Well, what do you use your Internet for? A lot of video, or just browsing and e-mail and such?" And the general answer was "Oh, browsing, paying my bills, watching the occasional video and some music.". The basic service we offered had 3Mbps download, and was well above what the customers needed, though we did have a higher speed offering as well.

Most residential users fall into this category. I think the difference in the future will be content will require more bandwith. DSL providers will also try to provide TV service (IPtv), we have several services along the lines of Netflix. The more popular consoles and digital downloads become will also have an effect. So in 5-10 years, maybe what's considered "Fine for residential standards" with a 5 or 10Mbps download will simply be too slow. If you're going to build, build for the future.

That said, upload all around, needs a nice boost. The upload offered by most ISPs is so small that it really is just ridiculously low, my assumption being that it's to stop people from uploading what people upload: movies, games and music But there are valid uses, and with a lot of places offering 512kbps upload, i wouldn't want to try gaming/voip/other applications that use upload, because the quality is just fail.

[Zalius]

Part of the issue is that yes, most residential users do not currently have a strong need for higher speed download. I used to deal with customers on the phone all day, i'd get the occasional sign up, asking about various speeds, and I'd ask "Well, what do you use your Internet for? A lot of video, or just browsing and e-mail and such?" And the general answer was "Oh, browsing, paying my bills, watching the occasional video and some music.". The basic service we offered had 3Mbps download, and was well above what the customers needed, though we did have a higher speed offering as well.

Most residential users fall into this category. I think the difference in the future will be content will require more bandwith. DSL providers will also try to provide TV service (IPtv), we have several services along the lines of Netflix. The more popular consoles and digital downloads become will also have an effect. So in 5-10 years, maybe what's considered "Fine for residential standards" with a 5 or 10Mbps download will simply be too slow. If you're going to build, build for the future.

That said, upload all around, needs a nice boost. The upload offered by most ISPs is so small that it really is just ridiculously low, my assumption being that it's to stop people from uploading what people upload: movies, games and music But there are valid uses, and with a lot of places offering 512kbps upload, i wouldn't want to try gaming/voip/other applications that use upload, because the quality is just fail.

honestly, i have a feeling television and the internet are going to HAVE to merge at some point in time. the purpose of having a TV is already covered by the internet, but having it on an independent system from a computer is just annoying.

monkey like 1 thing do everything

[shukudai]

honestly, i have a feeling television and the internet are going to HAVE to merge at some point in time. the purpose of having a TV is already covered by the internet, but having it on an independent system from a computer is just annoying.

monkey like 1 thing do everything

The biggest setback imo, to the two "merging" is how they're used, and the input method.

TV = Sit down on couch, use remote to change channels, and vegitate.

Interwebs = Sit at a desk, use a keyboard and mouse to navigate and hit up all your favorites. Also can feel like more of a task (i.e: you turn it on, "oh well I have to check facebook... and someone's messaging me... let me check my e-mail... oh time to pay my bills).

They're two different experiences, that overlap in some key areas.

[Gulkeeva]

The biggest setback imo, to the two "merging" is how they're used, and the input method.

TV = Sit down on couch, use remote to change channels, and vegitate.

Interwebs = Sit at a desk, use a keyboard and mouse to navigate and hit up all your favorites. Also can feel like more of a task (i.e: you turn it on, "oh well I have to check facebook... and someone's messaging me... let me check my e-mail... oh time to pay my bills).

They're two different experiences, that overlap in some key areas.

actually ati "used" to work on a series of video cards the TV wonder ( ati all-in-wonder)

it came with a connector for cable tv, hook your TV into that and you get TV output on your screen... also an adaptor to addon a remote.
It also have tv "schedule download" for all your stations.. then you can also set to download a TV show, and take pics from a tv show etc (even set the tv as your desktop background~!)

just didn't seem to pickup much I guess ;/ (probably from back when it was coming out peoples desktops were like 1024x768 and not enough room for the tv?)

[shukudai]

actually ati "used" to work on a series of video cards the TV wonder ( ati all-in-wonder)

it came with a connector for cable tv, hook your TV into that and you get TV output on your screen... also an adaptor to addon a remote.
It also have tv "schedule download" for all your stations.. then you can also set to download a TV show, and take pics from a tv show etc (even set the tv as your desktop background~!)

just didn't seem to pickup much I guess ;/ (probably from back when it was coming out peoples desktops were like 1024x768 and not enough room for the tv?)

I thought Radeon still made the TV wonder cards?

I guess you could consider that a solution, but it still modifies the experience: If you're watching TV on your PC monitor, it's not the same feeling as sitting on your couch (especially if you have a really good TV / sound system), and I don't think you'll see much in terms of like a couple sitting around a PC monitor, or friends watching a sporting event gathered around a PC monitor.

Also once you're at the PC, I think it becomes more interactive, there will be other things you'll check up on at the computer at the same time. TV is pretty much one way interaction, you sit and watch. Once you're at the PC it becomes more two way, I imagine advertisers would love to take advantage of this, make clickable links that bring you to their product and such, or "the first 100 people to click on the add will get <blah blah>"

[Kilhart]

Most consumer HDDs max out at around 0.5Gbit/s :[