Go go Rhode Island

[ZarakiKujata]

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Where is Qalbert? He should have posted a picture of Principal Joe Clark by now.

I think someone beat him

[Leif]

So teachers were getting paid 70k to have over 50% of all students fail everything? Fuck that noise, I'll work there for 2/3 of that and still make more than the average teacher in this state. Maybe the way the superintendent approached the problem is questionable, but if you have 90+ percent of all students FAILING basic math proficiency there's a fucking problem. As a former math tutor this shit just makes me rage cause there's nothing harder than trying to teach a 20+ year old person basic math skills they should have known since JHS or HS. It shouldn't have come down to this, the teachers themselves should have known there was an issue after seeing these statistics.

But when you make more than double the average teachers salary, I guess you don't care. I could probably commute 1-2 hours everyday there(back and forth) and still average out more than an average teacher in this city if they were getting those hours added on to their paycheck.

There should be more people that are outraged like this.

And whatever that problem is, it started -way- before high school.

If you have an algebra class, or a geometry class, and half the kids don't know basic arithmetic, what the fuck are you supposed to do as a teacher? My dad ran into this occasionally, he was a lifelong geometry and algebra/trig teacher.

It sounds like there are a ton of kids in high school that shouldn't have passed 6th grade. Do students flunk grades ever anymore? I don't know how shit gets this bad.

That reminds me of an article on college preparedness I read: Dumbo University

I highly recommend reading this piece. It, in a way, steps backward from college kids who can't do fractions into the sequence of events that caused this problem.

When I have to explain to the cashier repeatedly that, no, this loaf of bread does not cost $2,164.54, there is a problem.


Liberals talk a lot about human rights, and how everyone should be entitled to a whole buffet of rights such as health care. How can I possibly take them seriously when they can't even run the public schools?

[Lucavi]

You were doing alright until the Liberal managed to slip its way into there, like it always does.

I honestly wonder, Lief: how many times a day does the word Liberal float into and out of your brain? It must be somewhere in the tens of thousands.

[ephel]

You were doing alright until the Liberal managed to slip its way into there, like it always does.

I honestly wonder, Lief: how many times a day does the word Liberal float into and out of your brain? It must be somewhere in the tens of thousands.

Teabagger is catching up though in these threads.

[Leif]

You were doing alright until the Liberal managed to slip its way into there, like it always does.

I honestly wonder, Lief: how many times a day does the word Liberal float into and out of your brain? It must be somewhere in the tens of thousands.

Amazingly, every societal problem that people care about can be traced back to liberals. If the liberals didn't exist, we wouldn't have those problems.

Education, national defense, abortion, speech codes, ethnic diversity, political correctness, and treason.

[MysteryMithra]

I think someone beat him

: ( I guess they did.

[Priran]

don't forget the treaty of versailles, that's their fault too

[Kyreth]

Liberals talk a lot about human rights, and how everyone should be entitled to a whole buffet of rights such as health care. How can I possibly take them seriously when they can't even run the public schools?

Funny how you fail to mention the state with the highest graduation rate for high schools, which spent it's way into #2 for cash per student and was run by a Democratic (ie, liberal by Buchanan's standards) Senate and frequently Governor.

That'd be my great home state of New Jersey. 82% graduation rate that year, but you can see why it didn't get mentioned. #2 graduation rate? Wisconsin, another bastion of liberal thought according to Mr. Buchanan cause it's run by Democrats...although certainly they spent less than Jersey.

Shitty graduation rates aren't a liberal or a conservative hallmark, they're a widespread mark of failure that cuts deeper the shittier the neighborhood becomes. Poor urban, poor country, it doesn't matter- if it's a crappy place to live, the kids are much more likely to suck at school no matter how much cash you put into it.

[Not Kuno]

Amazingly, every societal problem that people care about can be traced back to liberals. If the liberals didn't exist, we wouldn't have those problems.

Education

Yet somehow you failed to comment on my point about the NCLB program bush started. Are you saying that it's a great program now?

[ZarakiKujata]

Yet somehow you failed to comment on my point about the NCLB program bush started. Are you saying that it's a great program now?

Bush only passed it to appeal to liberals and be bipartisan duh. Everyone knows that conservatives are in favor of demolishing the department of education hence why Bush managed to stick to hte liberals by not funding NCLB.

[Ksandra]

Didn't read the whole thread cause I know it's full of Leif crap, but just wanted to point out I think the Superintendent is fudging the teachers salaries. Those sound insanely high and only would be the case if every single teacher there was over 60.

http://www.teachersalaryinfo.com/ave...de-island.html

Teaching salary summary page for the state of Rhode Island

Salary range: $35,563 - $70,190

Average teacher salary: $53,473

Average beginning teacher salary: $32,902

Median household income: $56,605

Median house price: 265,000

Per-Pupil Spending: $9,178

Cents spent on benefits for every dollar paid as salary: 31.7¢

70k is basically what you get when your 65 and ready to retire. I highly doubt it's an "average" as he says it is, and he's mostly using that to make his plight sound better.


Don't get me wrong, as I stated that can be the major downfall to the union, but I don't like people fudging the truth to try and get sympathy.

[Atreides]

teachers in new jersey don't even make that much lol

[Leif]

Funny how you fail to mention the state with the highest graduation rate for high schools, which spent it's way into #2 for cash per student and was run by a Democratic (ie, liberal by Buchanan's standards) Senate and frequently Governor.

That'd be my great home state of New Jersey. 82% graduation rate that year, but you can see why it didn't get mentioned. #2 graduation rate? Wisconsin, another bastion of liberal thought according to Mr. Buchanan cause it's run by Democrats...although certainly they spent less than Jersey.

Shitty graduation rates aren't a liberal or a conservative hallmark, they're a widespread mark of failure that cuts deeper the shittier the neighborhood becomes. Poor urban, poor country, it doesn't matter- if it's a crappy place to live, the kids are much more likely to suck at school no matter how much cash you put into it.

So why are you hailing your state because it spends one million times as much?

Wisconsin is also home to the nation's largest voucher program. Obviously the liberals have not taken over.

Yet somehow you failed to comment on my point about the NCLB program bush started. Are you saying that it's a great program now?

I did comment on it. I've said I don't like it, multiple times. It is not a great program. It never was a great program. But, considering that George Bush, a liberal Republican, managed to do something means he's not on my death list.

[Ksandra]

teachers in new jersey don't even make that much lol

?

http://www.teachersalaryinfo.com/ave...ew-jersey.html

Teaching salary summary page for the state of New Jersey

Salary range: $44,450 - $93,412

Average teacher salary: $56,682

Average beginning teacher salary: $37,061

Median household income: $89,372

Median house price: $342,000

Per-Pupil Spending: $11,436

Cents spent on benefits for every dollar paid as salary: 28.1¢

[Atreides]

I just meant because teachers in NJ tend to be extremely well paid/compensated

[Cleverness]

I'd have to be paid well to live and work in NJ tbh

[Atreides]

yea because brooklyn doesn't have just as many festering shitholes as new jersey lol

[Not Kuno]

That's because NJ has one of the hardest requirements for teaching in the US. NY has the highest requirement in the country to teach at any level, but ranks lower on test scores etc and stuff due to the... varied conditions across the city.

[Leif]

That's because NJ has one of the hardest requirements for teaching in the US.

Like what?

[Not Kuno]

I don't know I don't live in NJ. But I know having a NJ state teaching liscense is good in like 49 states or something.