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    So it's okay if it's a call that changes the outcome of a PLAYOFF game, but not if there's a personal accomplishment involved? What point are you even trying to make? When has a commissioner in ANY sport changed a call after the fact so that a historic personal achievement could be achieved?

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    Dude, you're a terrible troll. What happened, did baseball make you miss an episode of House or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Also, the NBA goes back and changes egregious calls. It allowed Perkins to play in Game 6 of the Eastern FInals. Try again.
    Because it would have meant that he couldn't play in the following game. They didn't change anything about the game he played in. Try again.

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    I think its really big of joyce coming out and admitting so soon after the game that he made the wrong call.

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    The argument is that Selig is, far and away, the worst commissioner of the 3 major sports. He's bound to history. Then again, Stern and Goodell wouldn't have to reverse the call, they would have had replay years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius View Post
    Because it would have meant that he couldn't play in the following game. They didn't change anything about the game he played in. Try again.
    What are they going to do, replay the game? Idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    The argument is that Selig is, far and away, the worst commissioner of the 3 major sports. He's bound to history. Then again, Stern and Goodell wouldn't have to reverse the call, they would have had replay years ago.
    I agree that Selig is terrible. But I doubt anyone would have or could have done differently. And if there was replay in baseball, people like you would be the first ones crying that games take too long to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biddinger View Post
    I think its really big of joyce coming out and admitting so soon after the game that he made the wrong call.
    Apparently Joyce was literally crying as he apologized to Gallaraga personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius View Post
    I agree that Selig is terrible. But I doubt anyone would have or could have done differently. And if there was replay in baseball, people like you would be the first ones crying that games take too long to play.
    Coaches spend more time walking out to the plate and bitching about the call than it would take instant replay to get it right. The argument you present is absolutely retarded. Wouldn't effect me anyway, I still wouldn't watch it. Can someone tell me how long Leiland spend out there with the umpire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    What are they going to do, replay the game? Idiot.
    I could ask you the same question about this game, you fucking moron. What are they going to do, run everyone back out there again? Have a do-over? Overrule the umpire's call and open the floodgates when people want every close call to be reviewed by the commissioner's office?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Coaches spend more time walking out to the plate and bitching about the call than it would take instant replay to get it right. The argument you present is absolutely retarded. Wouldn't effect me anyway, I still wouldn't watch it. Can someone tell me how long Leiland spend out there with the umpire?
    Yeah, so keep making an ass-backwards argument about a sport you don't even watch. Leyland was out there for about 20 seconds. Replays take like 3-5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephius View Post
    I could ask you the same question about this game, you fucking moron. What are they going to do, run everyone back out there again? Have a do-over? Overrule the umpire's call and open the floodgates when people want every close call to be reviewed by the commissioner's office?
    WHy would they have to run anyone back out? It's the last play of the game, nothing else is going to happen afterwards. Not that I have to tell you, but baseball doesn't have a clock.

    And yes, change the call and let it open the floodgates, then maybe Selig will pull his sport into this millennium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    WHy would they have to run anyone back out? It's the last play of the game, nothing else is going to happen afterwards. Not that I have to tell you, but baseball doesn't have a clock.

    And yes, change the call and let it open the floodgates, then maybe Selig will pull his sport into this millennium.
    So they're just going to call him out and change the record books? What if it wasn't the last out? Would they tell the teams to go back out there? What if the call was on a fly ball that they ruled was caught, but wasn't? Do you give him a single? double? triple?

    This is why it's not as open-and-shut like you seem to think it is. There are a LOT of close calls in baseball. Reviewing every single one would be ridiculous.

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    what if, what if, what if, what if...none of those apply.

    And I agree, reviewing them all would be absurd, that's why the NFL limits them. Extend the game an extra 2 minutes, save coaches from getting thrown out of game and wasting those minutes arguing with the ump.

    But players and coaches have been thrown out for years, so we shouldnt do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biddinger View Post
    I think its really big of joyce coming out and admitting so soon after the game that he made the wrong call.
    Yeah I agree, especially apologizing to Armando personally.

    Rage subsiding...

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    wow I feel so bad for that pitcher, that absolutely sucks.

    Maybe they should award him the perfect anyways.

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    Also, Carpenter kills the Reds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headspace View Post
    wow I feel so bad for that pitcher, that absolutely sucks.

    Maybe they should award him the perfect anyways.
    Selig

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headspace View Post
    wow I feel so bad for that pitcher, that absolutely sucks.

    Maybe they should award him the perfect anyways.
    I feel like the damage is already done; he didn't get to celebrate with his team and all that. Changing the box score would be nice but doesn't fix much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moss View Post
    I feel like the damage is already done; he didn't get to celebrate with his team and all that. Changing the box score would be nice but doesn't fix much.
    His team is going to treat him like he had a perfecto, maybe a little less celebration especially in the moment, but it'll be nice to have that next to his name.

    but yeah bud selig is a bitch

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