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  1. #701
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    I'll take gimp towngear over gimp melee gear. And yes, there is something wrong with using full usukane on DI or solo. If acc is uncapped, usu body/feet are a given.

    Byakkos + dusk + aces = 12% haste 15 dex 5 attack 7 acc 4 str
    usu x3 = 5 dex 8 str 17 acc 10 attack 11% haste
    eliminate like factors

    1 haste 10 dex
    vs
    4 str 10 acc 5 attack

    10 dex = 7.5 acc so

    1 haste
    vs
    4 str 2.5 acc 5 attack

    Congratulations, you're tping in an askar head with less accuracy.

  2. #702
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhiGaruda View Post
    Well the comment was well deserved, lol. Full Usu SAM is about as logical as full Crimson PLD in Salvage.
    You still don't understand what's going on. He melee's in turban, usu body, dusk hands+1, haidate, usu feet. I guess reading is hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    I'll take gimp towngear over gimp melee gear. And yes, there is something wrong with using full usukane on DI or solo. If acc is uncapped, usu body/feet are a given.

    Byakkos + dusk + aces = 12% haste 15 dex 5 attack 7 acc 4 str
    usu x3 = 5 dex 8 str 17 acc 10 attack 11% haste
    eliminate like factors

    1 haste 10 dex
    vs
    4 str 10 acc 5 attack

    10 dex = 7.5 acc so

    1 haste
    vs
    4 str 2.5 acc 5 attack

    Congratulations, you're tping in an askar head with less accuracy.
    Congratulations, you can read almost as well as Zhi. No one asked for math on what we already know. Unless your comment was aimed towards a banned Uryuu, you're not proving anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Derock View Post
    What's wrong with full usu for solo though? Massive eva boost for a minimal haste loss is pretty nice for /DNC.
    This. Nothing wrong with 5/5 usu on ALL jobs that can wear it, as long as you're using it at the right times.

  3. #703
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    Either you need the evasion and should be wearing a real evasion build or you don't and can wear DD gear. Hybrid builds are outdated and pointless.

    How does this make your SAM less gimp for using full usu in salvage?

  4. #704
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derock View Post
    And if you're soloing shit that you absolutely need every point of eva, you should probably be on nin or thf.
    SAM eva isn't bad if you have a real build, I had 80% dodge rate on hakutaku yesterday when I helped ath with it :<

  5. #705
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derock View Post
    Never said SAM eva was bad, you know as well as I do how much random shit I've eva tanked on MNK. But you could have had another 12% haste on during TP for a loss of 19 eva (3 head, 4 body, 1 hands, 5? legs, 6 feet) or 9-10%. Personally would go with the kill speed, but some of us are cursed with that low taru hp and need all the survivability they can get.
    Taru or not, you only eva tank if you can't manage the mob through other means. PDT, MDT, seigan, utsusemi go a long way. There are very few examples where eva tanking on SAM is necessary, and it has drastically increasing returns on damage taken. If you can afford to sacrifice 10 evasion, you can sacrifice another 15 and use real DD gear. Alternatively, sheepfoe mambo is ~20 evasion and you can swap it for victory march for a better tradeoff than full usukane.

  6. #706
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Either you need the evasion and should be wearing a real evasion build or you don't and can wear DD gear. Hybrid builds are outdated and pointless.

    How does this make your SAM less gimp for using full usu in salvage?
    It's not an evasion build.

    SAM using full Usu in Salvage? He came on and said he runs around in full Usukane from time to time because he likes how it looks. Ooooof.

  7. #707
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    I misinterpretted 'run in' as use, too used to the word idle. It was a joke post to begin with, but honestly hope nobody thinks full usu has any practical use on SAM.

  8. #708
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    I misinterpretted 'run in' as use, too used to the word idle. It was a joke post to begin with, but honestly hope nobody thinks full usu has any practical use on SAM.
    Polearm build at birds!

    (Im not serious btw)

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    X2 Hikazu sune-ate first went to the new whm that joined us last week , other went to the brd who joined 2 weeks ago.

    Sold skadi's mask

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derock View Post
    Full DD build -> Usukane is -20 eva -> +29 which is a massive increase in evasion with a minor damage reduction. Full Usukane -> Full eva is a gain of 19 eva, and a major loss in damage. I'm not saying Usukane is the best for everything, but if damage taken and kill speed are both of concern while you can at least get out of the eva floor, 5/5 seems like a pretty solid choice.
    it's +12 -> +29, why would you tp in hauby+1 when you have an usukane body?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    , but honestly hope nobody thinks full usu has any practical use on SAM.
    sam/drg with imperial ring

  13. #713
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    Quote Originally Posted by seiji View Post
    sam/drg with imperial ring
    Why would you /drg with an active imperial ring? You could just keep /war and have berserk to go with 25% haste, ace's, and usu feet(25.x% with dusk+1).

  14. #714
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    100/100 or 75/75. Whatever it's called.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenux View Post
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    100/100 or 75/75. Whatever it's called.
    Forgot Bicent's Ares's legs 35 :3

  17. #717
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    NIN'D

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    Got only a pool SS here. :3

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    Time to ungimp my rdm and actually willingly use it.

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    All these salvage drops are making me fucking emo...

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    Suck less.

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