I have returned: StarCraft II

[Kaylia]

It doesnt sound fun unless you pick retarded unit like ultralisk, archon , raven, infestor. Units like marine, maraurauders, muta, stalkers are too easy to mass and roll over your opponent (especially in 4v4 where you can easily make a srong and balanced army)

[Maguspk]

For it to work we'd need at least some getting units that are not final tech though...

[Kaylia]

Meh, protoss and zerg have static defense (or is it forbiden?). I agree it would be harder on terran though. It's just that I've seen so many 1v1 match end with marine/marauder/zealot/ling/roach only it doesnt seem like a feat to win with a single unit. Same deal with t2 units.

[Serif]

Would need a good base unit such as Marine for everyones defense unless Z/P go defensive. Unless P went Stalkers could hold off, the main thing about 4v4 is defending the gang bang on the one base the opponent chooses.

Marines or Stalkers would probably be the best stable unit for overall defense on most of the bases while the rest of the guys tech for something serious or goofy, ie Ravens, Infestor, Archon.

I would assume your natural defenses are fine because if you choose Marauder or Tank you are screwed unless you have mass Missiles up.

[Slapper]

just make mass photon cannons

[Julian]

Oh man, I mass ravens in 3v3 all the time, it's awesome :D I'm down for this too, I'll post my number thingy after classes today

[Sylvrdragon]

Be a real man: go Warp Prisms.

[Syntex]

Just saw this in NSFW:Random Image thread and felt the need to share it.



http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5208/terran.png

http://imgur.com/0D4ZB.jpg

http://imgur.com/yXjlo.jpg

http://imgur.com/Zaq4n.jpg

I don't know if I should laugh at them or cry because its true...

[Maguspk]

LOL, all of those are so true.

[geno]

Here was the original version of that comic:

http://imgur.com/ji5o0.jpg

I think some of the above have better punch lines, but I still love this one because the panels could be read in any order and the comic would still make sense. My favorite is 4 > 2 > 3 > 1

[Falaras]

I just watched the replay and honestly if you had magic boxed those mutas you would have flat out crushed his first push, he would be stuck with no mining bases, and you could easily have won. Some tips though would be harass more with those mutas, Hydralisks are a waste of gas vs terran almost always, move that spine crawler to near your minerals of your choke to pick hellions off. Maybe work towards Ultras/Infestors faster since those are the real units to be afraid of in the zerg arsenal.

[Sylvrdragon]

You click your mutas to somewhere and they will converge then spread out, then you move (not attack move) over the Thor and then press stop or hold when you are above the Thor. This way the mutas stay spread out instead of grouping up to attack to the Thor and the AoE damage from the Thor is completely worthless. Basically Magic Box Mutas is the best/only way to fight terran at the moment because they can't really counter it.

Magic Box is for Thors ONLY. It's actually detrimental against Marines. As such, if they mix in enough Marines with their Thors, then Mutas alone aren't enough to deal with it; you'll need something else to distract/kill the Marines (Banelings work wonders for this).

[Bweigelt]

Well it looks like prayers of Zerg everywhere have finally been answered:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/761331

Also interesting how protoss seems to be the easiest race to play in the lower leagues, not Terran.

[GRT]

rofl, barracks require a supply depot? that's gonna piss people off

[Rehn]

Wow, I really wished I knew about magic box for that match. Just saw youtube of it... learn something new everyday.

[Falaras]

Magic Box is for Thors ONLY. It's actually detrimental against Marines. As such, if they mix in enough Marines with their Thors, then Mutas alone aren't enough to deal with it; you'll need something else to distract/kill the Marines (Banelings work wonders for this).

I never said it wasn't Thors only?
Edit: Wow, making reaper packs require a factory? I forsee reapers going the way of the mothership

[Rehn]

I just watched the replay and honestly if you had magic boxed those mutas you would have flat out crushed his first push, he would be stuck with no mining bases, and you could easily have won. Some tips though would be harass more with those mutas, Hydralisks are a waste of gas vs terran almost always, move that spine crawler to near your minerals of your choke to pick hellions off. Maybe work towards Ultras/Infestors faster since those are the real units to be afraid of in the zerg arsenal.

In most of my games, I'll agree hydra are a bit lol, but I did have a game where it had its uses: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/8...#rd:dna;markup

Had this terran repeatedly massing bio (especially marauders) and I went hydra/ling instead of roach/ling. Felt better having that 6 range vs 3 on roach, and not getting stomped quickly by marauders. Would be nice if hydra got some kind of buff... I think that was 1 game out of 21 games that I actually felt they were useful.

[Falaras]

In most of my games, I'll agree hydra are a bit lol, but I did have a game where it had its uses: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/8...#rd:dna;markup

Had this terran repeatedly massing bio (especially marauders) and I went hydra/ling instead of roach/ling. Felt better having that 6 range vs 3 on roach, and not getting stomped quickly by marauders. Would be nice if hydra got some kind of buff... I think that was 1 game out of 21 games that I actually felt they were useful.

The main reason people find hydras to be useless against Terran is seige tanks and hellions, I wouldn't say they are weak or strong against Bio, just meh.

[Bweigelt]

I never said it wasn't Thors only?
Edit: Wow, making reaper packs require a factory? I forsee reapers going the way of the mothership

Huh? Motherships are awesome. A lot like Carriers they have just flown under the radar with how effective they can be.

[Aero]

I can understand trying to nerf reaper rushing; but depot > rax seems a little overboard. I was a fan of 9 raxing and pushing out when I had 3 rines + 2 CSmarauders. The 9 rax will shutdown any cheese attempt while not pushing you too far back economically.