I have returned: StarCraft II

[Deejay]

I tried following a build order once but I spent 5 seconds looking at my opponents base with my scouting worker and next thing I knew I was supply blocked floating 1000 minerals and had 6 idle workers. I may have exaggerated but it didn't go as planned

Yeah I do this too.

Thing will be going perfectly, I'll send my drone out thinking yeah boy I got this and by the time my Drone finds their base I forget what I need to do next.

Also, what the hell do I do against Terran who just lock in their 1 base and build a fucking shitton or Marine, Marauders, Ravens, and Healicopters?

I played this one douche like 3 times last night. The first time I made about 3 dark templars and ruined his base, and then in the next two matches he just walled in, and sniped me as my army was approaching, and he didn't come out until he had this huge clusterfuck of an army about 30 minutes in. I tried fighting him with Phoenix's and Void Ray but they'd all get shot down as soon as I got over his base.

[Julian]

If they're turtling hardcore, just expand.

[synistar]

Yea, if you're fighting a turtle, make more bases than him. Have small skirmishes if he tries to poke around, but focus on map control. If you have 4 bases and them 2 bases, you should be quite comfortable. If a max vs max army engagement happens, you should be able to out-resupply him with raw gateway units as well as have more upgrades since you should be swimming in more minerals/gas. Also when you do max out 200/200, make more production facilities. Deny him any future mining bases. He will eventually get desparate for a base. He has to come out sometime or else you can remax vs a damaged T ball.

[Not Kuno]

It's embarrassing how much I suck at 1v1s. I'm like low silver. Meanwhile in every other cat I'm usually high diamond or plat.

[Kaylia]

It's embarrassing how much I suck at 1v1s. I'm like low silver. Meanwhile in every other cat I'm usually high diamond or plat.

If you want to practice 1v1, count me in. I've been playing terribly since I came back and need to improve my macro again

I tried following a build order once but I spent 5 seconds looking at my opponents base with my scouting worker and next thing I knew I was supply blocked floating 1000 minerals and had 6 idle workers. I may have exaggerated but it didn't go as planned

Ditto.

What kill me is building my base efficiently when I'm managing units that require lot of attention like reaper or a scout. I never found an efficient way to handle it

[Lhyet]

Fellow Protoss players! What are your preferred builds when against Zerg?

I'm having serious trouble taking down competent Zerg players. I can't take an early expansion (if they expand early) because they overrun me with Zerglings and if I try to go 3 gate robo into expansion when I see Roaches they are always able to rebuild their army too quickly.
Either that or they 7RR me and I can't hold it.

[Not Kuno]

If you want to practice 1v1, count me in. I've been playing terribly since I came back and need to improve my macro again

Sure. If you see me in sc2 shoot me a message. I might be with my friend playing starbattle though since our current thing we're obsessed with. Actually I might get on soon if you want to play shortly.

[Anakron]

It's embarrassing how much I suck at 1v1s. I'm like low silver. Meanwhile in every other cat I'm usually high diamond or plat.

That's strange, before I stopped doing 1v1s, I consistently placed higher in 1v1s. I found that having to watch out for 3 times as many bases and armies distracted me way too much and my macro slipped horribly.

[Not Kuno]

If you want to practice 1v1, count me in. I've been playing terribly since I came back and need to improve my macro again

Sure. If you see me in sc2 shoot me a message. I might be with my friend playing starbattle though since our current thing we're obsessed with. Actually I might get on soon if you want to play shortly.

[Julian]

That's strange, before I stopped doing 1v1s, I consistently placed higher in 1v1s. I found that having to watch out for 3 times as many bases and armies distracted me way too much and my macro slipped horribly.

Fully agree with this. It's also a lot harder scouting 3 different people, and keeping up with what they're all doing, rather than just one enemy.

I also need some practice partners around my level.

[Julian]

That's strange, before I stopped doing 1v1s, I consistently placed higher in 1v1s. I found that having to watch out for 3 times as many bases and armies distracted me way too much and my macro slipped horribly.

Fully agree with this. It's also a lot harder scouting 3 different people, and keeping up with what they're all doing, rather than just one enemy.

I also need some practice partners around my level.

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag

[Deejay]

Edit: Deejay, what's your SC character name? I'm silver also so we may end up matching against each other one day~ I'm Lhyet.268

In PvT if I don't see a cheese I've switched to HuKs 20 food 1 gate FE which is very challenging (which I need to improve) but has great results so far. Touch wood I've not lost to a Terran yet while using it.

Haha, yeah as I play more I'm slowly starting to get the hang of things. I need more practice controlling two armies at once, and timing my attacks, but I'm starting to get a handle on what beats what in matchups between different units.

My SC name is TGzion 282

[Salodin]

Fellow Protoss players! What are your preferred builds when against Zerg?

I'm having serious trouble taking down competent Zerg players. I can't take an early expansion (if they expand early) because they overrun me with Zerglings and if I try to go 3 gate robo into expansion when I see Roaches they are always able to rebuild their army too quickly.
Either that or they 7RR me and I can't hold it.

I usually go 2 gateways, then scout as best I can to see if he's going roaches or not. If he is, I go robo bay + another gateway then chrono out immortals and attack when I have at least two. If he went early expo then I go 3 gateway and expand with a lot of sentry/zealot and turtle till I have colossus, then move out and try to deny any more bases for them while expanding again myself. It's more of a game of attrition for me vs zerg.

[Not Kuno]

Fully agree with this. It's also a lot harder scouting 3 different people, and keeping up with what they're all doing, rather than just one enemy.

It's probably because I'm zerg and it's a bit tougher if you don't scout (or well). Hell sometimes even when I scout I still have no clue what's going on. D: I get raped by air where in 2v2 or others I usually have some support if they go air (and I go wack at their base for a while).

[Serra]

Admittedly I don't play a lot of 1v1, so if you're asking in that regard, this might not be as helpful, but I've been trying really hard lately to improve my sentry play, and that has been helping a lot against zerg. Just being able to cut off a chunk of their army has improved my success rate against them I feel.

Against mutas though, I usually curl up into a fetal position and wait to die..

[Anakron]

Against mutas you really need to hit them before they get a critical mass, so it's a matter of scouting.

[Kaylia]

Sure. If you see me in sc2 shoot me a message. I might be with my friend playing starbattle though since our current thing we're obsessed with. Actually I might get on soon if you want to play shortly.

Will do once I get back home... if gilseller didnt delete your name out of my friendlist (like they did with all my realID...)

It's probably because I'm zerg and it's a bit tougher if you don't scout (or well). Hell sometimes even when I scout I still have no clue what's going on. D: I get raped by air where in 2v2 or others I usually have some support if they go air (and I go wack at their base for a while).

Have you tried throwing more queens at the problem? I don't know how viable they are across the board, but in 1v1, they saved my ass so many times (and they cost no larva/gas).

[Kaylia]

Anyone know a way to desactivate the authentificator in Starcraft, but not WoW? It's pissing me off that I have to input the code every single times when I want to play, when for WoW, I only do it occasionally (until I change my IP).

If there is a game I'm not worried about gilseller loggin on, it would be Starcraft. What could they do? Make me looks like a fool in 4v4 games? I can do that all by myself.

[stewie]

Admittedly I don't play a lot of 1v1, so if you're asking in that regard, this might not be as helpful, but I've been trying really hard lately to improve my sentry play, and that has been helping a lot against zerg. Just being able to cut off a chunk of their army has improved my success rate against them I feel.

Against mutas though, I usually curl up into a fetal position and wait to die..

If you scout a muta build on 2base and they have no spine crawlers, 6-7 gate +1 timing will kill them. If they'er turtled and you can't, get blink, cannons in main and nat and take a third. Start teching into HT and have stalkers in your main and natural, if you have the extra gas you can morph in an archon or two so they can't keep their mutas clumped. Turn flyer helper on in options to help with aiming your storms, it'll most likely turn into a base race if the Z is any good, so save your warp ins for your bases, and keep a HT back at every base.

[Lhyet]

Thanks for the advice, guys. I'll be giving those suggestions a go when I'm next laddering.
And I agree with Mutas; such a slow and painful death. At least when a huge army rapes me and starts eating my base I know I can GG right away, but with Mutas it's a long drawn out process over 10 minutes of depression and despair as your mineral line is violated every time you take two steps outside your base... or something like that.

On a brighter note, I was against two Random players today who told me their team right away... and didn't lie! I like Silver league.