I have returned: StarCraft II

[GRT]

wow too many people in beta all the servers are full


edit: wait nvm seems all the servers are just down




so since i can't play, anybody got any tips for terran against straight mutas on desert oasis? i'm out of non-cheese ideas, gonna try fly over two racks and hope they don't see it until i get a dozen marines

[Maguspk]

wow too many people in beta all the servers are full


edit: wait nvm seems all the servers are just down




so since i can't play, anybody got any tips for terran against straight mutas on desert oasis? i'm out of non-cheese ideas, gonna try fly over two racks and hope they don't see it until i get a dozen marines

Armor upgrades on your riotrines (with 2 upgrades the muta damage is pretty much nothing on the 2nd/3rd bounces so they have to focus fire and also lose the advantage of bounce damage) and shit I'd say Ravens based on that video you suggested earlier, that was really sick. If I played Terran I'd always get at least 2-3 ravens against Zerg.

[GRT]

that guy mostly got careless tho, it really sux using HSM against air that's coming directly at your ravens cuz the missile doesn't have enough time to travel the distance and they end up blowing up a lot of your own army

[geno]

Am I the only one who can't sleep after playing starcraft 12-16 hours in a single days? >_> I'm suffering of a bad case of Starcraft effect

I didn't even play that much recently, but I had this last night. I didn't have trouble falling asleep, but I basically played out like 6 seemingly endless 2v2 matches in a row in my sleep, waking up once or twice confused as hell, lol.

[Maguspk]

that guy mostly got careless tho, it really sux using HSM against air that's coming directly at your ravens cuz the missile doesn't have enough time to travel the distance and they end up blowing up a lot of your own army

Well if they went Mutas early you can punish them by rushing, or just getting some Viking, but yeah Marines own mutas with some medvacs and upgrades.

[geno]

I don't play Terran, but this is probably how I'd handle it. If you don't really have the opportunity to move out with a decent army before the muta harass hits (desert oasis's huge ground distance would be an understandable reason for this), then you probably should play a bit more defensive. Still build up MMM for your push, but keep them in your base for defenses while you are building turrets (also consider upgrading turret range, seems like it should help a lot). You should probably also use this turtle stance to your benefit by building a CC in your main so you don't fall behind in econ while he has you pinned.

Then ideally you'll be able to push out while taking your expo because you have a sufficient turret count in your main to deter harass, and suddenly all the pressure is on him to defend against a sizable MMM force (which will be very hard with pure muta).

If he does, then it just ends up going to lategame where you'd probably want to pursue Ravens (hunter seeker missiles rape everything) and counter whatever hive tech units they are going for while continuing to expand.

[Rivero]

I just had an epic match. 25mins long. (Longest by far for me.) I tried proxy-pylon? and it worked amazingly. I hit it right behind the opponent's natural and I just kept rushing in units. He actually went mass void rays to destroy my Zealots/Immortals and then I had a 20min game of chicken with Stalkers and Sentries, lol.

[GRT]

sorry kaylia looks like my friend logged on, we'll have to continue our copper league conquest another day lol

[Rivero]

I thought I was the only one in Copper League. I always wind up losing one and winning the next. Endless cycle for the win.

[geno]

I just had an epic match. 25mins long. (Longest by far for me.) I tried proxy-pylon? and it worked amazingly. I hit it right behind the opponent's natural and I just kept rushing in units. He actually went mass void rays to destroy my Zealots/Immortals and then I had a 20min game of chicken with Stalkers and Sentries, lol.

My longest games have all been about 40-45 minutes long (I've had a couple of them). Most of them were PvZs with my brother, but also one PvT with a friend of his where he broke my natural with a mech push I wasn't expecting. Ended up winning it anyways because a blinking stalker + immortal army is hilariously strong against mech. Also the need for high ground vision thing let me pick off like 10 tanks that game with a handful of stalkers at various points when he wasn't paying attention to scan quick enough.

I think the games I've enjoyed more have been the PvZs though, storm is so awesome. Tech switches by zerg are so powerful though. If they start roaches, immortals and stalkers are great, if they go hydra for their tier 2, you have to switch it up and get a lot of chargelots and high templars with storm. One more building and they can switch to entirely muta, and your whole army is useless and you have to spam sentries/phoenix. God forbit they get hive tech, where Ultras will also invalidate zeal/temp armies. Or worse yet, broodlords which rape all ground armies period. Gotta play such a reactive game as protoss in long PvZs, but it is still pretty fun.

[GRT]

i always lose long matches, not sure why, so i've just started to learn all the rush builds

i'm so good at bunker rush against FEs now it's friggin automatic



also tier1 rushes in 2s fuckin suck, seriously, lost like 7 in a roll during placement matches cuz i can't figure out a terran build to counter it, then just went derpderp zerg mass roaches and won the rest

[Kaylia]

sorry kaylia looks like my friend logged on, we'll have to continue our copper league conquest another day lol

Don't worry about it, I kinda figured that was the case. The other team was pretty bad, I rapped their army 3 times ( and one of their base), but they eventually outnumbered me

And sheesh, don't talk about our copper league in public!

[GRT]

the truth will find its way man

[Maguspk]

I want to play copper league too, can't wait for the reset. I'm tired of cheese fags in gold bracket.

[Kaylia]

Just had the funniest game I played in a while.

We were both zerg. he teched roach, I teched muta. We annhilated each other base at the same time, and spent last 10 minutes running after everyone hatchery accross the map.

[Rivero]

I hate when Terran's pull that crap off where they lift off their bases and make me play hide and go seek with no air units cause I never go air units. So then I have to start teching Warp Prisms and Void Rays and I wind up getting pissed cause I'm wasting 15min of my time just to make sure I win a game that's technically my victory already, lol.

[GRT]

why would you do that? they are resetting the ladder pretty soon, and the beta ladder doesn't translate into retail release anyway

[Rivero]

why would you do that? they are resetting the ladder pretty soon, and the beta ladder doesn't translate into retail release anyway

I guess I just wanted to rank up a little bit? I don't know really. I had no clue about the ladder reset though and I figured the beta wasn't going to end for a while. : p

[GRT]

meh, matchmaking is broken right now, you gonna get overmatched and undermatched whatever your rank

[Kaylia]

why would you do that? they are resetting the ladder pretty soon, and the beta ladder doesn't translate into retail release anyway

When you can't win, you can always annoy people!


[edit]

I'm on a roll, 7 victory back to back, and some of these were really sweet. Three of them were won after my main got destroyed completely, but I managed to win rebuilding while I was getting destroying.