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  1. #4801
    Relic Shield
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    Julian is correct, I noticed you never hotkeyed any units, I assume you don't know how? To create a control group press CTRL + a number to add only what you have selected to that control group, or Shift + a number to add new stuff and keep the old. Example, if you select 10 marines, pressing ctrl+1 would add them to control group 1, so you could tap 1 and it would select all the marines, or double tap and it'll center them on your screen, if a new marine pops out you can select just it and press shift+1 to add it to that control group, or ctrl+1 and it will be the only unit in that group. It also works with buildings.

    Another thing I noticed was that you were queuing stuff up in your barracks, instead of queuing build more production buildings, so you can build more stuff at a time. Queued units are just minerals/gas that are gone but not being used for anything.

  2. #4802
    Siralin
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    Oh jesus the ctrl thing would cut down on all the mousing by so much.

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    Don't forget you can also shift + number to add units to an existing control group too.

  4. #4804
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    i know this probably isnt the palce to do this but,
    http://www.twitch.tv/rogbirdz
    bunch of nubz playing sc2 (me and friends)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematics View Post
    i know this probably isnt the palce to do this but,
    http://www.twitch.tv/rogbirdz
    bunch of nubz playing sc2 (me and friends)
    http://www.bluegartr.com/forums/143-Game-Streaming

  6. #4806
    Ah yes, 'Reapers'
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    I've found the success to PvP: upgrades!

    I've started getting a Forge after my Cyb. Core and getting 1 1 upgrades as quickly as possible, then getting to 4 gates and a Robo Bay and then moving out after a proxy Pylon is placed.
    If my opponent is going gate/robo also then the 1 1 units with 2-3 Immortals (depending on his unit comp) means that I easily take out a fairly larger force as long as I micro well.
    If he goes an early expansion then I move out with only one Immortal and have an easier win.

    I'm now up to 86% win rate right now.

  7. #4807
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhyet View Post
    I've found the success to PvP: upgrades!

    I've started getting a Forge after my Cyb. Core and getting 1 1 upgrades as quickly as possible, then getting to 4 gates and a Robo Bay and then moving out after a proxy Pylon is placed.
    If my opponent is going gate/robo also then the 1 1 units with 2-3 Immortals (depending on his unit comp) means that I easily take out a fairly larger force as long as I micro well.
    If he goes an early expansion then I move out with only one Immortal and have an easier win.

    I'm now up to 86% win rate right now.
    I don't really see a forge opening working very well vs a proper 4gate. >_>

    Only time I've ever really seen early forge work really well is in a zealot archon rush-ish. Forge+cannon at entrance in case of DTs, and can also grab an attack upgrade for your zealots. (As in you move out kinda as soon as you have charge, +1, and at least one archon done to break forcefields.)

    In lower levels, where you're less likely to kill each other really super fast, then an earlyish forge and early upgrades will definitely help later on in the game.

  8. #4808
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    GSL:
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    FUCK YEAH BOXER RETURNS TO CODE S!

  9. #4809
    Ah yes, 'Reapers'
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    Great news about Boxer :D


    Julian: I'm only facing gold level opponents but I've not faced a 4gate in... I don't even remember how long. Everyone seems to go for 3gate robo or blink stalkers now and the only time that 4gate comes up for me now is on Tal'Darim Alter, but only because it's me doing it against people who think a FFE works well in PvP...

    However you do bring up a very good point and if I were to get hit by a proper 4gate then I probably wouldn't be able to hold it. I'll keep doing what I'm doing as it's working for now but I'll be interested so see at what point my army is at when that 4gate hits and if the +1 weapons is enough to push back.
    Thanks for the input!

  10. #4810
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    question:
    how would one be able to make your drones automatically go through a nydus, mine a mineral patch, and go back through back to the hatchery.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAZmu...c1RVAAAAAAAABA

    video related. how do you do this because i wanna try it with island exansions

  11. #4811
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    Psystarcraft did a video on it a long time ago, I think.

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    where is a good website to upload my replays to? gonna try to get a friend to replay them and see what i did wrong.

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  14. #4814
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    What is the mouse movement command/key/whatever that I'm seeing that moves units but isn't the typical right click animation? It's like a bunch of nodes rapidly appearing and disappearing? Was watching a stream last night and a replay today that used this.

  15. #4815
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    Do you mean shift+right click? There is also an shift+Attack move command it makes those little circle nodes stating how you want the units to move or attack move rather than having to constantly click and move.

    Shift+right click will make green nodes.

    Shift+A will make red nodes.

    Btw everyone i'm not dead just really busy... RL stuff

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    I have a lot of problems with zerg. Been trying the suggested marine + tank push and this is what i got. Worked fairly well but would like to know ways to improve on it as i still get raped a lot by zerg. One guide i saw said to go brax > fact > banshees to harass back line then a raven. push at 10 min use point defense drone but i don't see that banshees help that much due to queens being able to protect the mineral line against them fairly well which leaves me paying for starport, reactor, and raven cost just for ~20 points of damage not taken also increase the push time by about 2 mins. let me know what you think if you can please! Also any other problems with my macro please let me know! I can usualy push with 3-4 scv, 5-8 marine, 3 seige tanks at the 8-8.5 min mark

    http://drop.sc/78146

    Also reason why i went with that build for this match please correct me if i was wrong.

    1) when i scouted i saw the late spawning pool and assumed early expand
    2) when checked the expand i saw that he did early expand and was throwing down spine crawlers to defend it
    3) When i saw the spine crawlers i assumed he wasn't planning on building many if any forces so tanks outside of the crawler range would work well.

    just won another tvz with same build XD guess its going to become the default for my TvZ matches if they early expand, MMM if they dont?

  18. #4818
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    Not quite Quannum. I knew about those shift commands, but what I was talking about is actually in that video. Go to :33 in that video and watch how he moves the tanks. Also, at 2:05, how did he make a bunch of supply depots like that? I've only been able to get one guy to work on one building at a time even if I set down multiples via shift right click.

  19. #4819
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siralin View Post
    Not quite Quannum. I knew about those shift commands, but what I was talking about is actually in that video. Go to :33 in that video and watch how he moves the tanks. Also, at 2:05, how did he make a bunch of supply depots like that? I've only been able to get one guy to work on one building at a time even if I set down multiples via shift right click.
    if you watch closely there is 1 scv on each depot. he selected 6 of them then shift ques 4 depots, 4 went and built one and the other two keep mining minerals

  20. #4820
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siralin View Post
    Not quite Quannum. I knew about those shift commands, but what I was talking about is actually in that video. Go to :33 in that video and watch how he moves the tanks. Also, at 2:05, how did he make a bunch of supply depots like that? I've only been able to get one guy to work on one building at a time even if I set down multiples via shift right click.
    Just spamming move command(rclick), clicking fast enough the animations overlap.

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