I have returned: StarCraft II

[Lhyet]

I had an awesome 35 min game yesterday against a zerg. Full macro game with each of us taking our sides of thre map and constantly trading armies.
He was beating me in terms of economy and supply nearing the end and I didn't think I'd get the win, but I managed to exploit the fact that he only moved his army around as a clump by constant DT harrass taking out hatches and stretching his multitasking too far.

Winning by harrass was great fun and I even got to delight in his sweet tears as he raged about DTs not being a proper or fair unit and calling me noob for beating him with them and turtling my base behind (4 on each entrance) cannons. He gave up talking when i asked him what it makes him if a noob beats him~

[Julian]

Open with reactor hellions, enjoy map control and get your expo up fast.

The point of the 4-6ish or so hellions (before you switch your factory to tank production) is to contain the zerg in his base. Zerglings aren't going to get by hellions (giving you map control) and you get to stop any early creep spreading. Don't waste your hellions to get drone kills (unless there's a very clear opening), it's better to keep those hellions with you to just join up with your army than to lose their utility just to try to kill a few drones. Just be careful about early roaches. But bunkers and tanks will take care of those.

[Aylee]

I suck at micro horribly! i try the a move style but i hit A click away from enemy unit and repeat but my dudes just stand there and keep firing, onlyway i can get it to work is to move h move h >.> and i dont have any real way to practice it other than in matches
also im going threw the campaign geting all the achevements and beating it on brutal. I've already finished the game but only have 25 missions unlocked do i have to play the whole thing threw again to get the other 2 and so i can get the research

[Gryffes]

Uh what do you mean by a move style?

A move is attack move, ie your units will move to the location you directed, and attack anything on the way - if they are units that shoot standing still then yes they will stand still and fire if they encounter anything.
Right click>h>right click h is for stutter step micro.

[Aylee]

Uh what do you mean by a move style?

A move is attack move, ie your units will move to the location you directed, and attack anything on the way - if they are units that shoot standing still then yes they will stand still and fire if they encounter anything.
Right click>h>right click h is for stutter step micro.

i'll keep doign it with click>h>click then everyone just keeps telling me to do it with A click ><

[Gryffes]

A move is best in general moving things around or if you just want to faceroll attack w/o micro.

You need a reason to be stutter stepping generally.

[Salodin]

You have to right click away from the army to move first obviously, then a click again to resume attacking.

[Asilius]

move > attack move > move

[Pikarya]

Also depending on your connection to Blizz + many other factors there can be a slight delay with stutter step. Its obviously much worse in 4v4s/or trying to connecting to servers beyond your region with another region client.

[Gredival]

IdrA's Code S group has both NesTea and MVP. lol.

[Gryffes]

IdrA's Code S group has both NesTea and MVP. lol.

Lucky is good as well, he could easily beat nestea/idra in a bo3.

[Aylee]

lol fought a zerg who early expanded as soon as he had 400 minerals... keep pushing him back and took out his hatchery, then another, then the same one after he rebuilt it keeping him on one base to my 3.... then the fungal growth came and threw me for a loop. First time encountering it whats the best way to deal with it? cant really stim and run like balings / sidestorm

[Raen Ryong]

Ghosts, preferably with Cloak. Either EMP or Snipe the Infestors.

Also, Zerg Hatcheries are 300 minerals /nitpick

EDIT: if the Zoggy doesn't have sufficient support for his brofestors but he is approaching a large bioball of yours hoping to do some damage, send a marine or two at him at a time to force him to waste his fungal or die - infestors are REALLY squishy.

I would also recommend considering a Raven if you see Infestors around as they can burrow and move at the same time. Make sure you have Missile Turrets at the least around your bases so you don't get Infested Terran bombed.

[Gredival]

lol fought a zerg who early expanded as soon as he had 400 minerals... keep pushing him back and took out his hatchery, then another, then the same one after he rebuilt it keeping him on one base to my 3.... then the fungal growth came and threw me for a loop. First time encountering it whats the best way to deal with it? cant really stim and run like balings / sidestorm

Keep your army somewhat spread out so that fungal catches as few units as possible. Also using Tanks along with air sight is effective because Infestors are so fragile and can easily be killed before they get in range to fungal your bio.

But the most effective strategy tends to be proactive and use Ghosts to snipe or EMP the Infestors.

[Aylee]

still cant deal with a large protoss army ... i mix MMM ghost and vikings but the stalkers rape the vikings before they can take down the clossiss and then they just tare threw my army even landing emps on his entire army >< not skilled enough to have vikings coming from behind while main army stims + emps from front

[stewie]

Practice practice practice is all you can do for you micro, setting up a good concave before the battle will help a lot as well, and can even completely decide a battle in one or the others favor, even if the unit comp is unfavorable (e.g. IdrA vs Elfie at IEM Guangzhao on Terminus(still not sure if that's the right game tt should be though)).

[Gredival]

still cant deal with a large protoss army ... i mix MMM ghost and vikings but the stalkers rape the vikings before they can take down the clossiss and then they just tare threw my army even landing emps on his entire army >< not skilled enough to have vikings coming from behind while main army stims + emps from front

If he has a lot of Stalkers, enough to stop your Vikings cold, he should be really vulnerable to bio. Zealots are much better at handling MM than Stalkers because Marauders are ridiculously good against Stalkers.

If he's overproducing Stalkers, the key really is to flank. Have Vikings on a separate hot key and send them in after from the side. You will just have to practice this. Alternatively, if he doesn't have as many Zealots as he should, shift your composition more heavily towards Maruders as they get good bonus DPS against Stalkers and Collosi and generally live longer.

There's also a good chance you are under-producing Vikings, especially because you are saying his Stalkers take out your Vikings so fast. You don't want to dump too much into Vikings, but remember that they can land afterwards and join the battle so it's not a complete loss. Since your army is bio-heavy it's better to overmake than undermake, because undermaking means the Collosi are going to destroy the heart of your army.

The third option is to go more Tank heavy. With a critical mass of Tanks, you can creep up and force him to march his Collosi into certain death. Especially if he has a lot of Stalkers, as long as you keep the MM close so that Blinks would be suicidal, you should be able to force him to convert to Immortals.

[Mathematics]

the cella incident this morning.

cella trying to get this girl to take her shirt off on stream l0000000l

[Salodin]

What?

[Mathematics]

cella get drunk on stream while skyping with a girl for new years. hilarity ensued because cella is awesome and has awesome broken english. he took his shirt off and tried to get the girl to take hers off(shes apparently done it before on her stream and got warned for it so she didnt wanna do it again). huk and slayersyugioh got on chat and forced him to shut down his stream

http://i.imgur.com/k85cB.png