I have returned: StarCraft II

**Gredival** · 2012-01-01 15:06

**Misuicide** · 2012-01-02 12:32

God damn I suck with Terran. Buddy and I switch up races for 2v2 each season, and we are Terran and Zerg this season. He is terrible with Zerg and I am Terrible with Terran, lol. We placed Gold Initially, haha. Moved up to plat now rank 2, but still I don't see much improvement or me playing much of Terran next season, lol. Our best season was Me Zerg him Terran. We ended up rank 8 Diamond, not too shabby. Anyway, feels good to play!

**Salodin** · 2012-01-02 12:56

i wish i had a 2v2 partner...

**Aylee** · 2012-01-02 22:36

so my 2v2 friend never plays any more.... anyone wanna be my 2v2 partner? (mid silver player terren)

**Pikarya** · 2012-01-03 01:32

Mahe doing a charity stream.

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MahE
http://www.twitch.tv/mahestreamsthevidya
http://mahebourg.tv/

**Gredival** · 2012-01-06 12:05

Homestory Cup IV highlight: MC + MarineKing casting matches together.

"oh god! in my base pylon!"

"jyp win, immolter imba"

Spoiler: show

**Isawa** · 2012-01-06 17:28

Just picked up the game, is there anyone else relatively new and wanting a 2v2 partner?

**Salodin** · 2012-01-06 18:52

Not new, but ill show ya the ropes since i seriously want a 2v2 partner lol

**Isawa** · 2012-01-06 19:11

Originally Posted by Salodin

Not new, but ill show ya the ropes since i seriously want a 2v2 partner lol

Awesome, my battletag is Oni#1607.

**altwight** · 2012-01-07 08:35

Been playing a LOT of 3v3s lately for practice cause I'm tired of doing 1v1s. I hit rank 2 diamond 1v1 and got tired so I did 3s for fun.

While doing 3s I've noticed my opponents have gone from high plat to now high masters every que. Most of the time I'm the only diamond person in the 3v3s I do.

Kso here's the story:

I was on a 14 lose streak. I started chatting in game on the 15th about how 3v3s is luck based due to being que'd with 5 other players all of which have their own skill level. It was ZZT vs ZPP and the ZZT team were a team of rank2 3v3 masters. They 6pool'd/2rax proxy and I was the only one on my team to respond correctly. I built a fucking forge. Soooo, they can't kill me and I can't win so I start chatting.

The fucking idiot MASTERS player tells me in 3v3 I should help my team and not cannon up and that I was huge noob for building 2 cannons at my ramp to hold off the 2rax ling all in practically. He goes on to say I have a lot to learn and I should listen to him because he's rank2 masters etc etc.

After the game he messages me and says "typical, the lowest rank is always the one to stay behind and cry." Now I'm a bit agitated at this point. I bite. But here's what I think he is failing to realize........ I am the ONLY diamond league player in the game whilst everyone else is masters. That should tell you something <_> He doesn't listen though, he continues to call me diamond scrub and so on and so forth.

My point is, if I'm being que'd with all masters player that CLEARLY means I'm above diamond level play yes? Yet this idiot who 6pool'd can't grasp the concept and he's rank2 masters? wat?

Am I wrong here?

edit; at the end of the day and 36 games later my final score was 13/23 won 13 games in 36

such bad luck today. yesterday i was on like a 13 win streak

**Seiji Okita** · 2012-01-07 09:24

I also recently bought SC2, i am a Terran player and looking for a partner or partners for 2v2/3v3 or even 4v4. My tag is Aero#1764... Lets dominate! >:}

**Not Kuno** · 2012-01-07 10:42

I'm always down for 2v2s or 3v3s 4v4s etc. I don't remember my number though. I think it's in this thread somewhere.

**Salodin** · 2012-01-07 11:14

the ranks are stupid to entirely judge skill on, and hes stupid for thinking so. There are people in the rank below who are more skilled then the rank above, and those that lucked into the rank above that have less skill then the rank below. You can only really judge skill based on who youre matched against, and if you were put up there with 5 masters players, you are up there in skill with them.

**Aylee** · 2012-01-07 12:16

someone hit me up for 2v2 im bored XD ryze302

Also geting to the point where my zerg opponets do nothing but mass zerglings and balings :/ best way to counter it? im massing marriens and tanks but they just plow threw

**altwight** · 2012-01-07 15:07

Originally Posted by Aylee

someone hit me up for 2v2 im bored XD ryze302

Also geting to the point where my zerg opponets do nothing but mass zerglings and balings :/ best way to counter it? im massing marriens and tanks but they just plow threw

marauder hellion. micro marauders infront of the hellions to tank banes (hard since hellions are fast as fuck) works though.

that or just go 3 of 4 banshees

**Julian** · 2012-01-07 16:16

Open with a few hellions, and try not to lose them. Don't have to be aggressive, just contain, and kill any zerglings that try to get out of their base.

Marines, tanks, and smart positioning, and you should be able to defend just fine.

**Gredival** · 2012-01-07 16:31

If they are just massing to the point you get overrun, you've probably let them have too much map control. Early Hellion harass would help prevent that. In even amounts of supply, Tanks in a proper distribution should have enough effective splash to stop that.

Also dropship micro helps a lot to prevent banes from killing everything.

Originally Posted by altwight

They 6pool'd/2rax proxy and I was the only one on my team to respond correctly. I built a fucking forge. Soooo, they can't kill me and I can't win so I start chatting.

The fucking idiot MASTERS player tells me in 3v3 I should help my team and not cannon up and that I was huge noob for building 2 cannons at my ramp to hold off the 2rax ling all in practically. He goes on to say I have a lot to learn and I should listen to him because he's rank2 masters etc etc.

After the game he messages me and says "typical, the lowest rank is always the one to stay behind and cry." Now I'm a bit agitated at this point. I bite. But here's what I think he is failing to realize........ I am the ONLY diamond league player in the game whilst everyone else is masters. That should tell you something <_> He doesn't listen though, he continues to call me diamond scrub and so on and so forth.

My point is, if I'm being que'd with all masters player that CLEARLY means I'm above diamond level play yes? Yet this idiot who 6pool'd can't grasp the concept and he's rank2 masters? wat?

Am I wrong here?

Generally yeah it means your MMR is high enough that the computer is testing your win-rate in Masters games to see if you should be moved. But it's also possible that their MMRs are low for their league and they are getting tested for demotion. Remember organized teams can hit random teams, so it's possible they are testing a low Masters team against a team of two mid Masters and a high Diamond.

I'm strongly of the opinion that in multiplayer games, aggressive coordinated 1base all-in is always the best course of action. As long as one person on the other team is teching, the army advantage should be enough to eliminate a player completely. After that, it's just a matter of not letting any cheesy tech play (Banshees/Voids/DTs/Mutas) get them back in the game.

In a normal game static defenses are effective early, but in a multiplayer game it ends up leaving allies exposed. So normally you need defensive units, which places you in the situation of might as well attack because if they are teching you put yourselves in the hole by investing too much.

It sucks particularly for Protoss because Protoss is already vulnerable to early aggression. Increasing the attackers' unit count just makes it impossible.

**Salodin** · 2012-01-07 17:48

Aylee and Seiji, your codes aren't working for me =(

I'm Salodin.581. Apparently I can't add Oni either >_<

**Aylee** · 2012-01-07 17:56

Originally Posted by Salodin

Aylee and Seiji, your codes aren't working for me =(

I'm Salodin.581. Apparently I can't add Oni either >_<

ryze 320 >< sry mixed up the 2 and 0

**Misuicide** · 2012-01-07 19:42

god damn, i guess i need to update the SC2 handles thread, I forgot about it :X

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