I have returned: StarCraft II

[Lazytowner]

I almost feel like increasing visibility between PURPLE and PINK player colors is warranting its own exclusive update. :/

Went against a purple T as pink T - confusion on both sides.

EDIT: Creighton.creighton fyi

[GRT]

illole.illole

[geno]

Same name for me. My 2v2 partner and I got through placement again, this time we ended up in silver instead of platinum Thats mainly because we both chose veteran giving us only 5 placement matches, and then managed to screw up two won games during placement.

On the bright side, holy hell there is a lot of leeway to have some fun in this lower division. We are 2-0 so far with my Z partner going QUEENS ONLY. Let that sink in. I can try to host the second replay (or he might make a video) where I was pretty much exclusively carriers and he ended up with like 30-40+ Queens, lol. Oh god those games were so funny, even if I carried them both lol.

[geno]

Regarding the patch notes: Since when did Blizzard prefer nerfing over buffing the counter? They've been taking a nerf bat to stuff every patch instead of strengthening the counters or options of other races recently which has been kind of annoying. Some of the stuff in these notes really didn't even make sense to me, particularly the DT nerf. If you tried to go for DTs as your first tech before, you were already nearly all-in prior to this patch because of the difficulty of transitioning out if you can't do damage (and its really quite easy to get detection now for all the races by that point, particularly if you scout it coming).

Now I'd have a hard time seeing myself use DTs at all in the future, save for some really special circumstances where I've teched to twilight council, gone with a semi-base trade that ruins detection, but losing most of my army, and then rushing for DTs with what little I've got left to end it. Or similar completely unlikely scenarios. At best, they can be mixed in with more standard armies I guess against terran/zerg who are lazy with detection to get a lot of hidden damage in.

But the patch was certainly not all bad. Even though there were some minor nerfs to protoss, the stalker change and the unit walling change were both HUGE HUGE buffs for them. The stalker change reduces the number of hits required against a LARGE number of units they commonly face and just makes them better in general, particularly early-mid game (before the upgrade nerf kicks in). The unit walling thing is going to make fast expand builds and just in general any tech or econ build 100000x more viable. It was a miracle more zergs didn't take advantage of the flaw with mass speedlings before it was fixed.

The terran marine/reactor nerfs I'm sure will be annoying to terran players, but they were rather neccesary when a pretty broken build surfaced TvP that involved a huge marine SCV timing push that just seemed impossible to hold off. The SCV hp nerf also helps a bit with it actually. And they did get out some pretty nice buffs to other build times and costs that make more diverse play a little more attractive which is what I was hoping for with terran.

For zerg, I'm still a little disappointed they haven't done anything with brood lords (or at least their counters). To be fair, most ZvPs don't even get to that point now, which I'd assume is why they are trending away from balancing the late-game units. The roach changes were probably necessary but they didn't really have that huge an impact overall on the way they were used. They just made them slightly less imba then they were before in the hands of someone with ridiculous APM and microing skill.

In general, I'd still say they are a long way from balanced, but the game is certainly playable and has a good variety of viable build options for each matchup. Anxiously awaiting further patches!

[GRT]

the new stalker/immortal timing push is insanely strong

[Dezzimal]

Only time I've ever made it to broodlords was when I fought a turtling P who built over 9000 cannons, I sniped both of his nexuses multiple times but he refused to GG until eliminated.

[Shuvo]

shuvo.soupy still

Ugh my rank dropped when I did the placement match. Had 2 wins to 3 losses and that stuck me in bronze.

All 3 losses were to protoss too which is odd as I usually win PvP games. Stalker/immortal push got me each time. Gonna stop making zealots I guess from now on, the new buffs are too good.

[Ferien]

mnkybngr.tizzle here. New placement seems like 5 by default, 2v2 partner and I got put in either bronze or copper now (were gold ). Walling change is gonna fuck up my speedling rush but I guess it was warranted, there's no reason they should have been able to push through a wall of stalkers and zealots as easily as they could before.

Any zerg players in here? What do you guys usually do? I used to do full-on roaches, but they get eaten up by stalker/immortal and m&m builds so I switched to a speedling>lisk/muta strat, which seems to leave me too vulnerableif I don't win on the first rush. When do you guys usually expand and how do you properly defend yourselves against early air rushes?

Edit: ding post #1337 woo

[Meian]

dude, reactor and marine nerf fuckin sux

Augh... seems like they really don't want Marine for endgame... tech isn't super appealing all the time

[MisterBob]

The reactor really did need the build time nerf

[Maguspk]

Remade my account, feel free to add me I play often and I'm always up for a 2v2 or 1v1.

Magus.magus

http://www.xfire.com/live_video/aurum510/

Some good platinum level live play, he's got really strong macro and is fun to watch.

[GRT]

Only time I've ever made it to broodlords was when I fought a turtling P who built over 9000 cannons, I sniped both of his nexuses multiple times but he refused to GG until eliminated.

haha, i fought some T who turtled on the northern island on lost temple, and he literally filled the entire island with missile turrets and proceeded to talk trash

so i make a couple of ghosts, dropped them on the nearby ledge across the chasm, scanned the island and nuked everything at the same time, was very very satisfying

[Iku]

Is there anyway i can play with bot or something? I am not in the beta and i am jealous

[Bullwinkle]

so when is the official release date now? until they move it back another 6 months.

[geno]

It has never been moved back because they've never been confident about a date. That said, they do seem pretty confident in a Q2 release, meaning about a 3month beta. No word on if that's changed at all during the beta process yet though.

By the way here's that 2v2 game with mass queens I mentioned earlier. Not a real back and forth game, they were pretty bad, and my friend made a lot of mistakes but still, how can you not want to see a massive Queen army?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a93lEHCmLhs (actual attacks don't start til around 2:00)

[Rivero]

That's pretty awesome. I had no clue you could mass up Queens. lol

[Shuvo]

lol I just beat 2 gold, 1 plat, 2 silver player in one hit for a streak of 5. And I'm still bronze -____-;; How do you get back up? My rank for bronze shot up from 35th to 5th cause of these 5 games, but i want out of this division, it makes me feel icky. O_o

[Shuvo]

Bah..jinxed myself... on a losing streak now >_>;;

[Lazytowner]

lol I just beat 2 gold, 1 plat, 2 silver player in one hit for a streak of 5. And I'm still bronze -____-;; How do you get back up? My rank for bronze shot up from 35th to 5th cause of these 5 games, but i want out of this division, it makes me feel icky. O_o

Oh, what is that supposed to mean? *baw has bronze skills* ;_;

[Rulke]

Any word on Blizzard opening up higer difficulty settings for computer opponents?