I have returned: StarCraft II

[Rivero]

How exactly are they doing it live?

I know there's usually lots of lag when they try to do these things live but I want to see more NonY and TheLittleOne. I love watching TLO play and NonY's phoenix rape was really refreshing as well.

[Gryffes]

It's not live - they are merely "casting" the games live. ( commentators will not have seen the games before and won't know the results of the series ).
The games have already been played.

[Synbios]

Some much SC2 you can watch this weekend

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=123634

[Rivero]

Some much SC2 you can watch this weekend

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=123634

Won't that clash schedules with the HDH invitationals?

[Synbios]

Won't that clash schedules with the HDH invitationals?

Probably but as far as I know the HDH is just the RO8 where the TLI is the whole tourny.

[Maguspk]

In soviet Starcraft, game micros you.

[Crizto]

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[Rivero]

In soviet Starcraft, game micros you.

Phoenix needed that buff to be honest. Protoss Anti-Air is weak as hell.

[Maguspk]

Phoenix needed that buff to be honest. Protoss Anti-Air is weak as hell.

lol no this is auto-micro it's stupid. Theoretically any unit with less than 6 range is unable to kill phoenixes now.

[Kaylia]

You can add spectators to custom matches, they just force you to pick a 4 player map before you get there (or I'm retarded and couldn't figure out how to get a 2 player map with 3 people in the party).

Pretty sure you can have spectator in a 2 players map.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31kSA0Guqpo

In soviet Starcraft, game micros you.

Oh wow, when am I going to use muta now? Kinda overpowered imo, but I will wait to try it.


Also, viking vs cruiser fucking suck (when you have the BC). They can easily micro you to death, unless you have plenty of yamato cannon avaible.


[edit]

Neural parasite works against air? Seriously? Wtf. Are you really supposed to counter zerg with a bunch of small units? The zerg can just mind control you templar/cruiser/carrier or w/e you brought to counter him, and rape you.

[geno]

Even though I play Protoss, I don't like it. When I right click or hit move, I don't want my unit attacking. I love moving shots but this implimentation feels poor. Why is it so hard for them to put animation cancelling (from BW) into the game? It felt so natural and responsive for the flying/floating units, they really need to get it in... at least for units like the Phoenix that they want to be able to do it.

[Ferien]

Well fuck me sideways. As a Zerg player I completely understand why it needed to be done but hate hate hate hate hate hate hate it. Lots of new changes, and it's good to see them giving their rationale for it now. Both the Archon and the Phoenix changes make Toss boss against muta though.

[Rivero]

lol no this is auto-micro it's stupid. Theoretically any unit with less than 6 range is unable to kill phoenixes now.

Wasn't it like this in Brood Wars with Corsairs and Mutas? I remember reading a thread about this very subject on Team Liquid. If they are doing the same thing as BW how is that considered "stupid"?

[Mathematics]

i got put in the silver league about 2 weeks back. never had a problem taking on zerg opponents when im terran. all of the sudden everyone who plays zerg is a master at it. it seems like everytime i fight a zerg now i get rushed with 12 roaches before my factory is even finished

[Kaylia]

I just tried the phoenix in my last game (pvz). The change isn't so bad imo. Against immobile mutalisk, you can do a hit and run, but against a pack of muta that are microed, it's really not that easy.

I will wait a little longer before complaining, but it doesnt really feel different from reaper/hellion hit and run. Actually, that one actually was harder to micro even if they attack automatically (there is little room for mistake).

[edit]
I finally got the chance to play a few matches in platinum league 1v1....this shit is really intense. Everyone is really good at microing (except me), and the counter comme really quick. People don't rage quit anymore when they see the void ray, they are actually going to pull something out of their ass to get it down. In previous league, every freaking games were one sided (for me or against me), but these games are way more epic.

Also, is it me or there is barely any difference between 2v2 gold/platinum? I ranked platinum 3 times and gold 3 times, and I can't really notice any improvement in platinum.

i got put in the silver league about 2 weeks back. never had a problem taking on zerg opponents when im terran. all of the sudden everyone who plays zerg is a master at it. it seems like everytime i fight a zerg now i get rushed with 12 roaches before my factory is even finished

My typical terran build is 1 reaper to harass, if it fail, I bring it back home and defend my wall (2 reaper can take a bunch of zealot/zergling) if the scv fix the bunker. After that, I will build marauder until I figure out what my opponent is planning. If he is going roach, you will want to go marauder all the way (and maybe aim for banshee on the side to hit him from behind).

[Flarega]

Has anyone tried ZvP with someone doing a pheonix harass on overlords? If so, was it annoying as hell?

[GRT]

haha, the phoenix patch came too early, they should've waited until the community picked up on Nony's strat

and now they are gonna be overpowered as is protoss



in other news, BC massing terran noobs are having a parade

[Kaylia]

Has anyone tried ZvP with someone doing a pheonix harass on overlords? If so, was it annoying as hell?

Someone did that to me a while back. He came with 6 phoenix to lift off my queen and all my drones. The other people who tried this after failled though, I won't get caught twice by this.

[Maguspk]

Wasn't it like this in Brood Wars with Corsairs and Mutas? I remember reading a thread about this very subject on Team Liquid. If they are doing the same thing as BW how is that considered "stupid"?

No, this is auto-attacking while you issue move commands, it's essentially removing the attack command from having to be used. In BW you still needed to string the attack and move commands properly to achieve the effect, it was not automatic. This change is like perfect micro for dummies.

[Flarega]

Didnt the units decelerate in BW also? And, kaylia, how did you counter the pheonixes? Queens/spores?