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  1. #301
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    Why do so many nyzul groups want a COR that will use healer's roll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clerix View Post
    Why do so many nyzul groups want a COR that will use healer's roll?
    Am i being wooshed or wut?

    Im pretty sure thats lazy bastard for "healing role".

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    King of the Jews
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    wow

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    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    Too bad it's wasted on a guy who sold his tiphia for usu

  6. #306
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    I don't understand these full Usu + Chiv Chains. I see em everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Too bad it's wasted on a guy who sold his tiphia for usu
    cant believe you did that veg...you fucking GIMP

  8. #308
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Too bad it's wasted on a guy who sold his tiphia for usu
    usu is better than tiphia?

  9. #309
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazmaz View Post
    I don't understand these full Usu + Chiv Chains. I see em everywhere
    Chiv chain is probably the best TP neck for capped acc for monk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    Chiv chain is probably the best TP neck for capped acc for monk.
    If you're looking at it like that then might as well just use Spike Necklace.

  11. #311

    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    usu is better than tiphia?
    You speak nonsense sir.

  12. #312
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    it's like complaining that someone sold their mahatma slops to get a plutos staff lol

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  14. #314
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    Chiv chain is probably the best TP neck for capped acc for monk.
    Don't see how it beats Justice Torque in capped acc, but full usu mnk is easy to cap fstr anyways, so either neck may end up doing nothing, depending on what you have in the other slots. (for example, overshooting acc and sporting flame ring in ring2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Don't see how it beats Justice Torque in capped acc, but full usu mnk is easy to cap fstr anyways, so either neck may end up doing nothing, depending on what you have in the other slots. (for example, overshooting acc and sporting flame ring in ring2)
    I was more thinking about store tp, but I realised this 1 stp didn't change TP return. If you allow augments though, carapace gorget with store TP 2 can surpass plenty of neck especially combined with att/str. Also with Magian quests, chivalrous can potentially become the best neck (probably better than an augmented faith), wait and see.

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    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    Not talking about possibly, talking about as it stands now. Future augment necks doesn't excuse lulzness now.

  17. #317
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    I was more thinking about store tp, but I realised this 1 stp didn't change TP return. If you allow augments though, carapace gorget with store TP 2 can surpass plenty of neck especially combined with att/str. Also with Magian quests, chivalrous can potentially become the best neck (probably better than an augmented faith), wait and see.
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Almah_Torque
    ?

  18. #318
    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    I was more thinking about store tp, but I realised this 1 stp didn't change TP return. If you allow augments though, carapace gorget with store TP 2 can surpass plenty of neck especially combined with att/str. Also with Magian quests, chivalrous can potentially become the best neck (probably better than an augmented faith), wait and see.
    Well if your acc was capped, wouldn't it be better to drop btath for wtath than to swap to a neck w/ only stp? (can get better stats in neck than ranged, so better to give up ranged, no?)

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    White tathlum is indeed better that black tathlum with standard buffs/debuff and assuming acc is capped. 4 att vs 2 stp ... when stp does something it's 1-2% of ws damage up, which can be 0.4%-0.8% global damage up depending on ws split. Clearly, the higher the pdif, the better the benefit of WT. Exemple :

    Full usu + Rajas+ brutal : 19 stp. TP return : 5.8

    with white tathlum : 5.9

    5.9/5.8=1.72%

    with 60%/40% split, it increases your ws by 40%*1.0172=40.688

    BT : 100% + 4 attacks during mele
    WT : 100.688%
    In order for BT to equal WT, you need the 4 attack to increase dot by x where
    40+60*x=100.688

    => x=+1.15% or 0.2875 % per 1 attack, which happens almost always with dia at least ..

    edit : fixed mistake.

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    Seen this in town, I'd be happy with it if I got it.

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