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  1. #721
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isawa View Post
    Spellcast can't differentiate between two of the same item and I will be using the enmity+ earring for PLD.
    You could just Satchel the one you don't want to currently use or leave it in MH when you're on the other job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    You could just Satchel the one you don't want to currently use or leave it in MH when you're on the other job.
    I could, but it's really not worth the trouble for just a Chivalry piece. And what other job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardd View Post
    thought we was brah's son


    but like i said, i can care less. ppl like me, mojo, ruke and wafic are long gone. the only one holding the torches are you guys and i hope to continue seeing nice pics!
    I R HURT

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    Quote Originally Posted by wop View Post
    I R HURT
    oh, you know i meant you too mr onion

    im so jealous of these new items they get to play with. i sure wish i had a STR+6 ring!

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    This guy showed up to salvage in a warwolf belt once

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    Although NIN is beaten at very specific things, it's still an extremely versitile job. It's a better jack-of-all trades than RDM ever was imo

    for example, with the right equipment and sj, nin can:

    Tank almost any HNM effectively
    Tank xp level mobs very effectively (although who can't when you have Ni)
    Be a competative DD
    Solo some pretty impressive stuff

    Sure ppl prefer PLD for HNM tanking, because it's easier on the whm, and it's easier to get away with sucking at the job; but a PLD can't run to WG, change sj, some equips then go solo big bomb, or DD in a meripo/einherjar/city dynamis etc.


    I love how much NIN changes with various equipment sets and SJs, it practically becomes another job... and no other job can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    Although NIN is beaten at very specific things, it's still an extremely versitile job. It's a better jack-of-all trades than RDM ever was imo

    for example, with the right equipment and sj, nin can:

    Tank almost any HNM effectively, although with significantly less utility than quite a few other classes.
    Tank xp level mobs very effectively, unless the DD in your party stop slowing EXP down and actually try. (although who can't when you have Ni)
    Be a competative DD compared to other second-string DD jobs.
    Solo some pretty impressive stuff, just like a handful of other people.

    Sure ppl prefer PLD, DRK, SAM, WAR, and RDM for HNM tanking, because it's easier on the whm and offers a hell of a lot more utility, and it's easier to get away with sucking at the job; but a PLD can't run to WG, change sj, some equips then go solo big bomb(you know, like the one person on record who's ever done so), or DD in a meripo/einherjar/city dynamis etc. alongside THF, BLU, and PUP.


    I love how much NIN changes with various equipment sets and SJs, it practically becomes another job... and no other job can do that.
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    I'm glad you expanded on my first sentance with bold, just incase nobody read my first sentance which I said first before saying anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    I'm glad you expanded on my first sentance with bold, just incase nobody read my first sentance which I said first before saying anything else.
    I agree with what you said, PLD tanking is pretty much easier once. NIN tanking is much harder to do have to understand the enmity table about Volatile Enmity/Cumulative Enmity when and when not to cast certain spells. Can't just spam spam spam or you'll run out its all about precise timing and myself and others prefer NIN tankin over PLD at times. Also the sets nin has makes it beat PLD. Have you ever seen a PLD hold hnms without getting hit? Nin can eva hold a lot of shit which makes them vital at times, so you don't end up wipeing and if you say no then thats just retarded. Look at an enmity table PLD VS NIN and you can see that it's a lot easier to tank on PLD. NIN takes more skill which a lot of the people don't have so they down talk it's tanking capabilities.

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    ^Fucking lol

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    A -50% pdt set lets NIN tanks a number of things which PLD can't, simple as that. You can't shield everything.

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    Bahahaha, like what?

    Btw bro, PLD can easily get 44% PDT without any Valhalla(47% with it)

    Edit: inb4 NIN Maat and the Nagi version of Balrahn

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    As much as I love NIN, I fully agree that it's not a very useful job when compared to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Bahahaha, like what?

    Btw bro, PLD can easily get 44% PDT without any Valhalla(47% with it)

    Edit: inb4 NIN Maat and the Nagi version of Balrahn
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Khromasoul_Bhurborlor

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Nosferatu

    and to a lesser degree: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Oupire

    And im curious how pld can "easilly" hit 44% pdt while maintaining a shield build.


    Edit: i should probably say these are things I've had direct experience with. and I've seen plds 1 shotted by byakko's triple attack > razorfang too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    And im curious how pld can "easilly" hit 44% pdt while maintaining a shield build.
    They don't use a shield build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewie View Post
    They don't use a shield build?
    so wtf is the point of being on pld?

    way too many PLD's dont realise shield skill is only useful for casting utsus Ichi. the rest of the time, PDT reduces more damage, more reliably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Khromasoul_Bhurborlor

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Nosferatu

    and to a lesser degree: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Oupire

    And im curious how pld can "easilly" hit 44% pdt while maintaining a shield build.


    Edit: i should probably say these are things I've had direct experience with. and I've seen plds 1 shotted by byakko's triple attack > razorfang too
    Wait, what?

    I've tanked Khromasoul and Nosferatu on PLD, what exactly is the challenge with these two particular NMs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    so wtf is the point of being on pld?

    way too many PLD's dont realise shield skill is only useful for casting utsus Ichi. the rest of the time, PDT reduces more damage, more reliably.
    What's the point of being on nin? Same reason I assume, you like the job. RDM takes less damage, SAM/WAR/DRK do more damage while still tanking fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Khromasoul_Bhurborlor

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Nosferatu

    Edit: i should probably say these are things I've had direct experience with. and I've seen plds 1 shotted by byakko's triple attack > razorfang too
    what kind of gimp plds do you have that cant tank that shit.
    ...
    is this a joke?
    ...
    haha?

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    pld can tank it, but overthrow does a hell of a lot more than the 200-400 it does to me.

    and vamp gaze attack dooms (which can still kill if slow to react/not many cursnas), not to mention, I've not seen a pld live through it's 2hr.

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